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    Exclamation TX - Austin police chief complains of "vile threats" in wake of dog killing by APD cop.

    At least he admits that APD is on a hyper footing.




    Acevedo: 'Vile' threats aimed at APD
    Warns that 'mob mentality' is fueling outrage

    http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/a...s-aimed-at-apd

    Updated: Thursday, 19 Apr 2012, 11:31 AM CDT
    Published : Wednesday, 18 Apr 2012, 4:59 PM CDT

    John Moritz

    AUSTIN (KXAN) - Police Chief Art Acevedo said in an open email to Austinites on Wednesday that his department has been subjected to "vile" and "serious threats" in the wake of the weekend shooting of a resident's dog by an officer.

    He also suggested that a "mob mentality" may be feeding the public outrage.

    In the message, the chief pleads with those who are offended that an officer who was sent to the wrong address and fired on the barking dog to give his department the time it needs to thoroughly examine all aspects of the incident.

    "I am one person, with a department to run, a city to protect, and a family to love," the chief wrote. "I assure you that we will have some positive outcomes out of this incident, but we have to conduct our review in accordance with the law and our own policies, regardless of public sentiment."

    The message, which comes one day after Acevedo apologized to Michael Paxton, the owner of a blue heeler named Cisco, was attached to an equally emotional response to a resident who accused the department of "ignoring" the outrage over the dog's death.

    "We aren't ignoring the tragic death of Cisco the dog," he said. "We are conducting a comprehensive review of the incident to include the officer's actions, as well as our protocols/training and will report our findings to Mr. Paxton and the community we serve."

    Acevedo also pointed out that his department is still reeling from the April 6 shooting death of Senior Officer Jaime Padron during an otherwise routine call.

    "This death had a profound impact on our officers, and part of our current on-going review is what impact, if any, did this recent tragedy have on our officer in terms of how he approached this incident and how he responded," the chief wrote.

    "Did hyper-vigilance play a role, are our training, response protocols and policy best practices, what did the responding officer do right, what did he do wrong, what corrective action, if any is warranted, and what are the lessons learned. These are a lot of questions that have to be thoroughly explored and we can not allow a mob mentality to influence our follow-up in this matter."

    Text of Acevedo's emails
    Chief Acevedo's response to the death of Cisco

    We are receiving thousands of e-mails and telephone calls on this matter. Many of the written and telephonic contacts with members of our department have been vile, and included serious threats, including threats to shoot our officer(s). I personally crafted the following response and I apologize in advance if you are offended by this fact. I am one person, with a department to run, a city to protect, and a family to love. I assure you that we will have some positive outcomes out of this incident, but we have to conduct our review in accordance with the law and our own policies, regardless of public sentiment. After meeting with and personally speaking with Officer Griffin (who is part of a household that includes family dogs, like most of our police department families), I know he feels badly for Mr. Paxton and Cisco. Officer Griffin has requested to personally meet with Mr. Paxton to extend his condolences. I have extended this offer to Mr. Paxton and he has indicated he will contact me when he is ready to meet with Officer Griffin.

    The hyper-vigilance issue I refer to below is something that we will have to consider and monitor closely throughout our department and it has to be part of our review. As to the mob mentality I reference below, sorry, but when people are calling us and directing profanity laced insults and threats toward our employee(s) in writing and on telephone calls, I can’t think of how else to describe it. While I expect to be subjected to public scrutiny, I don’t expect people in this department to be subjected to the treatment they are receiving. Finally, please share this e-mail with whomever you would like, I stand by every word.

    Original Message:

    Thank you for your e-mail. We aren't ignoring the tragic death of Cisco the dog. We are conducting a comprehensive review of the incident to include the officer's actions, as well as our protocols/training and will report our findings to Mr. Paxton and the community we serve. On April 6, 2012, Good Friday, an Austin Police Officer who was gunned down and murdered when he responded to a call of a “disturbance” at a Wal-Mart. This death had a profound impact on our officers, and part of our current on-going review is what impact, if any, did this recent tragedy have on our officer in terms of how he approached this incident and how he responded: Did hyper-vigilance play a role, are our training, response protocols and policy best practices, what did the responding officer do right, what did he do wrong, what corrective action, if any is warranted, and what are the lessons learned. These are a lot of questions that have to be thoroughly explored and we can not allow a mob mentality to influence our follow-up in this matter.

    Again, all of these issues are being reviewed and our findings will be released. I am confident that as a result of Cisco’s death, some positive outcomes will result which will make it safer for our officers, the community we serve, and the pets we all love.

    I have personally spoken to Mr. Paxton on more than one occasion and I publicly and privately expressed my condolences and apologized to him for the loss of his companion.

    Please give us time to conduct a thorough and thoughtful review.

    Sincerely,

    ART ACEVEDO

    Chief of Police

    Austin Police Department
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    The issue is that it wasn't very long ago that another Austin policeman killed someone else's dog. Art "can't turn down any freebie from Homeland Security" Acevedo promised that changes would be made then in the training of officers. It never happened. People are pissed and rightly so.

    Austinites love their dogs. It's getting a lot of coverage from the local news. You can tell they think this shooting was flat out wrong.
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    Dog Lovers Are Now Enemies of the State

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/110242.html

    Posted by Christopher Manion on April 19, 2012 10:07 AM

    Clueless police seem to like intimidating the public by shooting the dogs belonging to the innocent citizens they're supposed to be protecting. In Tennessee, it took a federal jury to force the Tennessee Highway Patrol, kicking and screaming, to admit wrongdoing (the Cookeville, Tennessee police had already settled for $75,000) when a family's dog was shot "by mistake."

    In the latest intimidation installment, "officer" (how he demeans the term) Thomas Griffin shot Michael Paxton's dog on Good Friday after Griffin trespassed on Mr. Paxton's property "by mistake," pulled a gun on Mr. Paxton, and then shot and killed Mr. Paxton's dog, Cisco.

    Business as usual for Austin's finest, but the public didn't roll over and play dead. After 90,000 people expressed their outrage on Facebook, Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo was finally forced to pretend to apologize, but he didn't let his contempt for the public to stay hidden for long. He now blames a "mob mentality" for the massive wave of criticism of his department. That calumny, of course, gives Acevedo an excuse to call Janet Napolitano's black helicopters (now circling Chicago) and their heavily-armed thugs, undoubtedly trained in Nisoor Square, to Austin to put the uppity masses in their place.

    Here we see the Orwellian dialectic at work: a rogue policeman trespasses and kills, but those who protest are at fault! They are the criminals! Therefore they must be taught a lesson! Anyone who complains is now subject to harassment and arrest as an enemy of the state, and can be indefinitely jailed without charge. Moreover, the NSA and Homeland Security will undoubtedly i.d. every one of those ninety thousand contemptible upstarts and target them. And, when Mr. Paxton sues Acevedo and Griffin, the government lawyers will undoubtedly demand that anyone who loves dogs — or liberty — be excused from the jury.

    UPDATE from A.N. in Austin: "Watch the video. Acevedo will never discipline Griffin. In Austin, Affirmative Action rules, and the cops always cover for one another anyway."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    The issue is that it wasn't very long ago that another Austin policeman killed someone else's dog. Art "can't turn down any freebie from Homeland Security" Acevedo promised that changes would be made then in the training of officers. It never happened. People are pissed and rightly so.

    Austinites love their dogs.
    I was hoping you'd comment on this.

    I'm sure I must have come across that.

    That was before the cop got shot at the Wal Marx correct?

    So being hyped up over that isn't an excuse, is it?
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 04-19-2012 at 01:54 PM.

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    SO DONT SHOOT PEOPLES DOGS AZZHOLE!

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    I wonder how much longer it will be before a cop gets shot by a dog owner who just witnessed his dog getting killed by said cop....
    Last edited by JK/SEA; 04-19-2012 at 02:13 PM.

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    Denial and cover-up are human nature, and there is no doubt that is what this "Chief" is doing.

    "I am one person, with a department to run, a city to protect, and a family to love," the chief wrote. "I assure you that we will have some positive outcomes out of this incident, but we have to conduct our review in accordance with the law and our own policies, regardless of public sentiment."
    Translation: Protecting and serving are at the very bottom of the list of priorities. It's like the manager of a McDonald's saying "I have a lot of things to do other than serve hamburgers to customers".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Denial and cover-up are human nature, and there is no doubt that is what this "Chief" is doing.

    Translation: Protecting and serving are at the very bottom of the list of priorities. It's like the manager of a McDonald's saying "I have a lot of things to do other than serve hamburgers to customers".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Police Chief Art Acevedo said in an open email to Austinites on Wednesday that his department has been subjected to "vile" and "serious threats" in the wake of the weekend shooting of a resident's dog by an officer.
    Bull. $#@!.
    Put your money where your mouth is, $#@!vedo.
    I want to see what these "threats" are.
    If there's anything you've taught us over the last decade, it's that any threat to the thin blue line will be thoroughly and utterly crushed.
    Unless they produce proof that credible threats happened, I'm going to assume (with 99% certainty) that these "threats" are nothing more than polite expressions of disapproval, which, in our not-yet-complete police state, you're still, thankfully, incapable of stopping in the manner we know you'd try first if it didn't cause an armed revolt.
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    Police Chief Art Acevedo listens to Alex Jones and has been on his show.
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    In the message, the chief pleads with those who are offended that an officer who was sent to the wrong address and fired on the barking dog to give his department the time it needs to thoroughly examine all aspects of the incident.
    Translation - "We need just a bit more time for you to forget all about this, so we can move on the the next outrage we are going to commit."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    Translation - "We need just a bit more time for you to forget all about this, so we can move on the the next outrage we are going to commit."
    this my friend is the effing truth.

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    People in austin are probably still pissed about the police shutting down the highways during rush hour for the cop that got killed.

    Maybe the reality that police aren't their for the people will start sinking in in Austin.

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    "mob mentality" may be feeding the public outrage.
    When it comes to police abuse, theft, murder and violation of civil liberties, "mob mentality" is something we need more of.

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    The dashboard video indicated that the cop blew the dog away mere seconds after he left his car. A gross overreaction, at best. No one needs cops who are that trigger happy roaming the streets- next time he loses his cool, it might be a kid that gets shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    I wonder how much longer it will be before a cop gets shot by a dog owner who just witnessed his dog getting killed by said cop....
    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    Translation - "We need just a bit more time for you to forget all about this, so we can move on the the next outrage we are going to commit."
    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    When it comes to police abuse, theft, murder and violation of civil liberties, "mob mentality" is something we need more of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Police Chief Art Acevedo listens to Alex Jones and has been on his show.
    I judge someone by their actions, not whether they listen to Alex Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I was hoping you'd comment on this.

    I'm sure I must have come across that.

    That was before the cop got shot at the Wal Marx correct?

    So being hyped up over that isn't an excuse, is it?
    The policeman was killed at WalMart on April 6. The dog was killed on April 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    I wonder how much longer it will be before a cop gets shot by a dog owner who just witnessed his dog getting killed by said cop....
    That would be when it happens to MY dog.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I judge someone by their actions, not whether they listen to Alex Jones.
    A good Christian woman doesn't judge people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    The policeman was killed at WalMart on April 6. The dog was killed on April 16.
    I was thinking of the first of the two recent dog killings by APD.

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    The issue is that it wasn't very long ago that another Austin policeman killed someone else's dog.
    That dog was killed before the Wal Marx shooting, correct? (for the life of me I can't recall the details of that story, although I know I read it)

    I know Cisco the dog was killed after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A good Christian woman doesn't judge people.
    I never claimed that I was a good Christian. Plus, Danke, do you honestly believe that God wants us to put our brains on hold with regard to public officials? I think not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    The dashboard video indicated that the cop blew the dog away mere seconds after he left his car. A gross overreaction, at best. No one needs cops who are that trigger happy roaming the streets- next time he loses his cool, it might be a kid that gets shot.


    00:14 "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS!"
    00:16 "GET YOUR DOG!"
    00:17 BANG!!!

    One minute later, after the dog is dead.

    "Why didn't you get your dog when I told you to!"

    "I didn't know you were here, you pulled a gun on me and told me to put my hands up, what was I supposed to do?!!"
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 04-21-2012 at 11:38 AM.

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    police chief complains of "vile threats"

    I do not make threats.
    I don't live in Austin either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post


    00:14 "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS!"
    00:16 "GET YOUR DOG!"
    00:17 BANG!!!

    One minute later, after the dog is dead.

    "Why didn't you get your dog when I told you to!"

    "I didn't know you were here, you pulled a gun on me and told me to put my hands up, what was I supposed to do?!!"

    Then around 8:55, the cop lies about how it happened.

    That video about made me cry.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    To all of you who are upset about this, and all government intrusion into your lives:

    "Go in the house!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    To all of you who are upset about this, and all government intrusion into your lives:

    "Go in the house!"

    And this will continue to happen until neighbors become neighbors and communities become communities and stand arm and arm.

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    Would there be this amount of outrage if the cop had shot a human?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackTerrel View Post
    Would there be this amount of outrage if the cop had shot a human?
    It depends upon the situation. But yes, there has been outrage when it was believed someone was wrongly shot. With pets, it's much easier, as it is very difficult for the policeman to make the case that killing the pet was warranted.
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    I eagerly await the day the first American town or city votes to de-fund its police department, citing incidents like this and the seeming 500 others from 2012 as the reasons.

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