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Thread: I agree with Newt Gingrich's education policy only, hope Paul's could be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    why would we want more bureaucracy? We want local control of schools because that is how education is better. We had no DOE until the late 70s and education has cratered since then.
    How are local controls any good? In my town they keep jacking up the property taxes to pay for new schools we don't need. Not only should the federal government be out of education, the local governments should be out of education too.



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    And would private companies provide education free of cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy949 View Post
    Well somebody should research and collect data. I want less bureaucracy too but how do we deal with the lazy teachers with tenure and change schools into a more exciting place to learn?
    The only real education is self-education. I learned more reading on my own terms, than I ever did through the public education system.
    "For if you [the rulers] suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves [and outlaws] and then punish them."
    -Sir Thomas More (1478-1535), Utopia, Book 1

    *Admirer, of Philosophy.*

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    [QUOTE=tttppp;4359607]How are local controls any good? In my town they keep jacking up the property taxes to pay for new schools we don't need. Not only should the federal government be out of education, the local governments should be out of education too.[/QUOTE
    Same here, they jack property taxes here for a new multi billion dollar performing arts center while we're going to cut extra curricular activities like 1 year or 2 later what a waste along with the fact that we have 3 empty useless schools that we cannot sell for money. It's the government int he city to provincial to fed level that continues to fuck this up.

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    Hey TTTPPP you seem like you live in our city

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy949 View Post
    And would private companies provide education free of cost?
    They don't have to. My parents have been paying over $10,000 a year in property taxes and the vast majority of that goes to pay for our "free" schools. So there is no such thing as free.

    But you could make companies tax rates based on how well they treat their community, and make giving affordable education to poor people one of those things. That would motivate the private sector to educate the poor people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttppp View Post
    How are local controls any good? In my town they keep jacking up the property taxes to pay for new schools we don't need. Not only should the federal government be out of education, the local governments should be out of education too.[/QUOTE
    Same here, they jack property taxes here for a new multi billion dollar performing arts center while we're going to cut extra curricular activities like 1 year or 2 later what a waste along with the fact that we have 3 empty useless schools that we cannot sell for money. It's the government int he city to provincial to fed level that continues to fuck this up.
    This does seem like my town. Where do you live?

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    Union City, California you too>?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy949 View Post
    Union City, California you too>?
    No. I live in Newtown, CT. We have at least one or two old schools that are no longer in use, that the city is doing nothing with. I remember when I was in high school, the baseball team was "pay to play" because they couldn't afford it, even though the just spent money on a multi-million dollar addition.

    And now I hear they are building a new high school, about 13 years after they just got a brand new addition, and just a few years after they built a brand new middle school.

    Point is, local governments are just as bad as the federal government. I heard there are plenty of conspiracy theories regarding the people running this town, just like the federal government.

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    Oh that's not bad as our superintendent spending our taxes on her car, she got fired though

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