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Thread: I agree with one part of Kim Jong Un's speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttppp View Post
    Whats wrong with being a dictator?
    Lots. I have little to no respect for Un unless he does something really extraordinary for his people!

    However, I'm quite surprised by his speech. For a man of one million lies, he was quite an ironic beacon of truth with this speech.

    The wonderful thing about the truth is that there can only be no truth. It is the direct opposite of a lie, whereas a lie can be infinite. However, there can be only one truth, no matter who's mouth it comes out from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    Lots. I have little to no respect for Un unless he does something really extraordinary for his people!

    However, I'm quite surprised by his speech. For a man of one million lies, he was quite an ironic beacon of truth with this speech.

    The wonderful thing about the truth is that there can only be no truth. It is the direct opposite of a lie, whereas a lie can be infinite. However, there can be only one truth, no matter who's mouth it comes out from.
    If there is lots wrong with being a dictator, then please name some.

    In the private sector, there are thousands of dictators called CEOs, and almost all of them are more effective than our government. The best form of management is you place one person in charge of one responsibility. The worst thing you can do is place hundreds of people in charge of one responsibility. When you do that nobody is accountable, everybody does nothing, then points their fingers at each other. I know. I've seen managers do this and get horrible results. When I made each employee in charge of one responsibility with the same staff, I got tremendous results.

    If we had certain controls in place, I don't see anything wrong with a dictator. Worst case scenario he sucks and we impeach him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttppp View Post
    If there is lots wrong with being a dictator, then please name some.

    In the private sector, there are thousands of dictators called CEOs, and almost all of them are more effective than our government. The best form of management is you place one person in charge of one responsibility. The worst thing you can do is place hundreds of people in charge of one responsibility. When you do that nobody is accountable, everybody does nothing, then points their fingers at each other. I know. I've seen managers do this and get horrible results. When I made each employee in charge of one responsibility with the same staff, I got tremendous results.

    If we had certain controls in place, I don't see anything wrong with a dictator. Worst case scenario he sucks and we impeach him.
    Lmao. Someone should probably tell the North Koreans that. It's too bad he censors what they read or they might have read by now how easy it really is.
    Last edited by kcchiefs6465; 04-16-2012 at 04:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Lmao. Someone should probably tell the North Koreans that. It's too bad he censors what they read or they might have read by now how easy it really is.
    They don't have controls in place to limit his power. For one thing, dictators should not be given power over the election process. Thats really rule number one. If you look at the private sector, where dictators are the standard, the board of directors determines the terms of CEOs employment. They don't allow CEOs to stay on forever regardless of their performance.

    If North Korea had the proper controls in place that I'm talking about, North Korea would have remove whats his name years ago, and things would be much better by now, because the dictator would have the power to make things better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttppp View Post
    They don't have controls in place to limit his power. For one thing, dictators should not be given power over the election process. Thats really rule number one. If you look at the private sector, where dictators are the standard, the board of directors determines the terms of CEOs employment. They don't allow CEOs to stay on forever regardless of their performance.

    If North Korea had the proper controls in place that I'm talking about, North Korea would have remove whats his name years ago, and things would be much better by now, because the dictator would have the power to make things better
    I really don't even know where to begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    I really don't even know where to begin.
    Whats not to understand? Dictators should have the ability to do most things, except handle the election process, which would insure a proper election, and hold the dictator accountable for what he promised during his campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    farreri, Kim Jong Un is a dictator. Please be careful about "agreeing" with him.
    One of the issues that many Americans have is the idea that each and every thing done or said by someone we dislike is 100% wrong. This is leading us to a very bad place. In order for a society to work, we have to have the ability to see the good ideas as good ideas, even when we dislike the person/party presenting them.

    The idea that we are expected to label everything done by a dictator as wrong is especially befuddling. If we had that attitude in the 1950s we'd have never developed the interstate highway system or rockets. Well, maybe the latter wouldn't have been so bad...

    Nobody here is suggesting that we abandon the libertarian principles and embrace the Juche idea. There's nothing wrong with agreeing on a small part of Kim Jong Eun's speach. Also, being a student in Switzerland, we don't know yet if he'll bring any of their ideas into Korea. I'd wait a bit before being too harsh on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Andy View Post
    One of the issues that many Americans have is the idea that each and every thing done or said by someone we dislike is 100% wrong. This is leading us to a very bad place. In order for a society to work, we have to have the ability to see the good ideas as good ideas, even when we dislike the person/party presenting them.

    The idea that we are expected to label everything done by a dictator as wrong is especially befuddling. If we had that attitude in the 1950s we'd have never developed the interstate highway system or rockets. Well, maybe the latter wouldn't have been so bad...

    Nobody here is suggesting that we abandon the libertarian principles and embrace the Juche idea. There's nothing wrong with agreeing on a small part of Kim Jong Eun's speach. Also, being a student in Switzerland, we don't know yet if he'll bring any of their ideas into Korea. I'd wait a bit before being too harsh on him.
    There's lots of things Hitler did that were impressive. Also, I've heard plenty of statements from Bin Laden, Amadiajad, and others that seem pretty intelligent. I've actually heard smarter things from them that I've ever heard out of Obama. I've never heard anything I liked from Obama.

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    This happens because our companies (along with our government) sell them all the technology.

    Go look up SOFEX that happens every two years.

    It's disgusting.
    "I am, therefore I'll think" - Ayn Rand

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttppp View Post
    Whats wrong with being a dictator?

    In modern usage, the term "dictator" is generally used to describe a leader who holds and/or abuses an extraordinary amount of personal power, especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly. Dictatorships are often characterized by some of the following traits: suspension of elections and of civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents without abiding by rule of law procedures; these include single-party state, and cult of personality.
    -Wikipedia


    Second of all, why do you think a single person can make better decisions that "hundreds of CEOs"?? I would rather be able to choose between Trader Joe's, Whole Foods and other grocery stores than have a single person in government make that choice for me, I don't care if they are elected. If we had an election today for a person to choose one grocery store for the whole country, it would probably end up being WalMart!!

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