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    If we end income tax what taxes or forum of resourse do we use to pay for roads, railroads, bridges, school ect?

    I am trying to explain to my older brother and I want to have the correct answer.

    This is what I have said so far.

    Keep the fruits of your labor
    Income tax is not the only tax. It was a tax created to fund war and has only been increased on us as the years progress. 100 years of telling us how much they will take and how much we are aloud to keep! Time to end that!


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    Income tax doesn't pay for any of that.

    Roads- gas tax
    Education- property tax
    Railroads- most railroads are privately owned. Amtrak receives a gov't subsidy, but is going to be seeing private competition in Florida: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1372950.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulfollower999 View Post
    Income tax doesn't pay for any of that.

    Roads- gas tax
    Education- property tax
    Railroads- most railroads are privately owned. Amtrak receives a gov't subsidy, but is going to be seeing private competition in Florida: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1372950.html
    Education - Property tax. I would not argue in favor of that as a replacement. It denies people the ability to truly own private property and can render you homeless if you fail to pay for someone kids education.

    If you eliminate the income tax the federal tax revenue would be out the same as it was in 2000 through corporate and other taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Education - Property tax. I would not argue in favor of that as a replacement. It denies people the ability to truly own private property and can render you homeless if you fail to pay for someone kids education.

    If you eliminate the income tax the federal tax revenue would be out the same as it was in 2000 through corporate and other taxes.
    I agree, but unfortunately thats how it is done today.

    Most of the revenue from the income tax goes toward military spending and interest on the debt.
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    Ron Paul's position is to get rid of the federal income tax. The states take care of most of their roads and bridges, so if Ron Paul got rid of the federal income tax, roads and bridges would be just fine as it is now as the states take care of them.

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    Income tax is only used to pay the interest on the national debt. Without the central bank siphoning off the wealth of our nation, there would be no need for a personal income tax.

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    the govt has tarrifs, rents, operational fees etc. If you eliminate income tax without adding any other tax or fee you still have as much income as the US had in the late 1990s, including income tax. The problem is, since 2000 we have DOUBLED the size of govt, in good part, overseas, where the money doesn't even recirculate here and stimulate the economy.
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    Here watch this. It was made by a forum member in the last election cycle and has been viewed millions of times if you put all the mirror version views of it together, I am sure (it is hard to even find the correct one on youtube, people made so many copies.) Sadly, I'm not sure this is the original author because his channel videos are suddenly blocked, at least the remastered version of this is. So the quality isn't as sharp.



    speaking of Avaroth, however, watch this while you can, it keeps disappearing. Remember it was made LAST election cycle.... BEFORE the crash....

    Last edited by sailingaway; 04-15-2012 at 11:03 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMX View Post
    If we end income tax what taxes or forum of resourse do we use to pay for roads, railroads, bridges, school ect?

    I am trying to explain to my older brother and I want to have the correct answer.

    This is what I have said so far.

    Keep the fruits of your labor
    Income tax is not the only tax. It was a tax created to fund war and has only been increased on us as the years progress. 100 years of telling us how much they will take and how much we are aloud to keep! Time to end that!


    Thanks for help
    All of those things can be privatized and funded voluntarily. Communized roads and schools are immoral and a terrible idea as we've seen in practice.

    All forms of taxation as well as tarrifs are immoral because they are an initiation of force on people and their property. Additionally, a forced monopoly over these services is immoral as well because it involves the initiation of force or the threat thereof on potential competitors.

    (This is not what Ron Paul proposes for the short term, but I think separation of government from these functions should be the end goal.)

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