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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    I know all that, but you seem to be saying that if you have an ounce of socialism, that makes you a communist.
    I would say we have more of an ounce of socialism. We have just enough capitalism to give the illusion of free markets, no more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    The so called "Fascists" you're talking about are most likely the Trotskyite Neo-Conservatives that follow the philosophy of Bill Kristol and others that are obsessed with Perpetual war and flirt with left-wing politics.

    Am I right? Guess what. Neocons are crypto-communists and not Fascist like Benito Mussolini.
    AKA Allen West.
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    Yay. Seven pages of bickering over a washed up neocon.
    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    All of them except for Dr. Know are practicing communists.

    ARE Americans practicing Communism?

    Read the 10 Planks of The Communist Manifesto to discover the truth and learn how to know your enemy...

    Karl Marx describes in his communist manifesto, the ten steps necessary to destroy a free enterprise system and replace it with a system of omnipotent government power, so as to effect a communist socialist state. Those ten steps are known as the Ten Planks of The Communist Manifesto… The following brief presents the original ten planks within the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart for each of the planks. From comparison it's clear MOST Americans have by myths, fraud and deception under the color of law by their own politicians in both the Republican and Democratic and parties, been transformed into Communists.

    Another thing to remember, Karl Marx in creating the Communist Manifesto designed these planks AS A TEST to determine whether a society has become communist or not. If they are all in effect and in force, then the people ARE practicing communists.
    Read the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto at the link and decide for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Well I too fear we are getting too socialist, especially because our form is just benefiting the rich (ie fascism), but I don't really think the U.S. is going to become like the Cuba, N. Korea, or the former USSR.
    Please explain the differences between the US and Cuba. Thanks in advance.

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    Mighty thoughtful of the fascist to warn us bout the commies.
    Best of luck in life.

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    Allan West is an authoritarian right-wing militarist.

    Not exactly the same as a communist, but certainly no better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    Allan West is an authoritarian right-wing militarist.

    Not exactly the same as a communist, but certainly no better.
    And the others aren't authoritarian left-wing militarists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awake View Post
    Communists don't go by that name anymore.
    That is true. They didn't teach me Communism in school, they taught us Marxism and in my academic focus, they called Marxism science too
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    "Interesting. I have been reading on this. McCarthy went after communists or people that had been affiliated with communism, and the majority of these people were Jewish, many of them worked in Hollywood, and were big fans of Trotsky; they were known as "Trotsky's Kids". The attacks McCarthy had made ruined many lives and careers, but the biggest threat was that the Zionist/Soviet/Israel connection would be exposed and McCarthy had to be taken down. It was the children of those who had been investigated by McCarthy that went to Berkley to test their rights of "Freedom of Speech". These kids were very upset at how their parents, and their parent's friends, had been treated in the McCarthy witch hunts. These kids at first stood up for Civil Rights, and were gaining national attention. They were doing a good job. Then they protested the war. Then they started taking drugs and let their hair grow out and had unlimited sex with shiksas, much to the horror and dismay of their parents. The Israelis won the 6 Day war; winning our government's support and backing. The Trotsky Zionists told their kids to quit the anti-war nonsense(Israel needs America to be pro-war, not anti-war), to shave their beards and finish school and go to work on Wall Street. Some did, others became a part of the "Yippie" movement, which was designed to make the anti-war movement look violent and retarded. They succeeded. Many of the reformed hippies who are "Trotsky's Grandkids" are now neocons. They are in control."-YumYum

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    Joe McCrarthy was right all along there were/are communists in the goverment and OBAMA is a communist and hollywood's full of communists. Why else did they make that junk movie called REDS?

    McCarthy predicted all of this. In light of what's unfolding before our very eyes (a communistic world government)...it may be time to clear Joe McCarthy's name.

    McCarthy's ultimate target wasn't just the communists, but the powers above them that covered up and promoted their deeds.

    Anyone who believes that McCarthy was a reckless "witch-hunter" out to read this well researched book.
    http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-Hi.../dp/140008105X
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    Why are we mixing up communism with a corporatist fascism? As a former communist, let me say that they are NOT communists because they barely even acknowledge the ideology! Yo can be a welfare state without it being communism.
    Last edited by Lishy; 04-16-2012 at 06:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Sure he's right, but why does he support illegal wars and a police state? Seems pretty communistic to me.
    Yep. Allen West didn't answer the question.

    In response to the question “What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card carrying Marxists, Internationalists, or Socialists?” West claimed that there are: “78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist party.”

    He qualifies as an "internationalist" himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah I reckon there are plenty of communists in Congress.

    Just like there are plenty of fascists.

    What there are not a whole lot of, are freedom loving strict constitutionalists.
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    There's about 532 of them in Congress, and Allen is one of them.

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    Lot's of confusion floating around.

    Let's start here: both fascism and communism are economic systems. Both rely on heavy authoritarian control over business and capital. In communism all means of production are owned outright by the state. In socialism or fascism, the means of production are still held, nominally, in private hands, but with heavy control, oversight and taxation, in addition to outright orders to produce what the state wants, usually war materials.

    Fascism can be distinguished from all of the above in that it also promotes national "greatness" or racial "purity" as a means of community and populist agitating. In addition, fascism also requires or brings about as a by product, a heavily authoritarian social order.

    If there is any one system that most closely resembles what we have right now, it is fascism.

    But it's a new, weird, form of it.

    Outrageous behavior is tolerated as "allowing rebellion" but always within certain conformist guidelines. Thus, 14 year olds with spikes in their face and tattoos, that look like every other bunch of slack jawed teenagers across the country.

    But any rebellion outside the allowed norms, whether real or perceived, is dealt with harshly.

    I'm pretty sure that the mask will come off one day, not too long from now, and even this "permitted" rebellion will be dealt with harshly, along with every body else not fully enmeshed in the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    Why are we mixing up communism with a corporatist fascism? As a former communist, let me say that they are NOT communists because they barely even acknowledge the ideology! Yo can be a welfare state without it being communism.
    Whatever. Our system is getting to the point that you can't do business unless you do it exactly how the government would do it. Whatever you want to call our system, its largely a government run system, not a free market. You can call it fascism, communism, socialism, I don't care. Point is its just a government solution, with just enough of a free market to have the illusion of capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Yep. Allen West didn't answer the question.

    In response to the question “What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card carrying Marxists, Internationalists, or Socialists?” West claimed that there are: “78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist party.”

    He qualifies as an "internationalist" himself.
    that's why he is pointing a finger at the progressives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ... fascism also requires or brings about as a by product, a heavily authoritarian social order.
    Pushing marxism or socialism in the above manner makes it marxo-fascism.

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