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    What's his race look like in OKlahoma? I'm a big RJ Harris fan.
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    It's a smart move. RJ Harris is an experienced movement member with a chance at a Congressional seat. He was fighting the tides in for the Presidential nomination, but for Congress, I think he could raise a lot of money from Ron Paul's core supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Hale View Post
    I think he could raise a lot of money from Ron Paul's core supporters.
    Harris burned most bridges with Paul supporters in 2009.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/115541/the-...ecent-comments
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Harris burned most bridges with Paul supporters in 2009.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/115541/the-...ecent-comments
    Meh. To me, it seems a lot of that criticism was warranted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Harris burned most bridges with Paul supporters in 2009.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/115541/the-...ecent-comments
    Funny that, I would have thought that most Paul supporters would have been cheering along every word written there.

    If not, this movement is in serious trouble once Ron takes his leave.

    RJ seems like a decent enough guy, but I think he needs to develop his own persona and platform a bit. It's pretty cool that he's essentially speaking in nothing but Ron Paul talking points, but it almost seems forced at times. Who knows, maybe he just gets nervous during public speaking arrangements, and perhaps that's why he looks like he's about to rage all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Harris burned most bridges with Paul supporters in 2009.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/115541/the-...ecent-comments
    Not completely, but he did aggravate an already growing divide between some members of the Liberty movement and the purists over at lewrockwell.com and a few other places with a stronger concentration on foreign policy. Personally, I agree more with Harris' statement than what Rand was talking about, but the fact remains that we have to have a practical means of extending this movement, and RJ was being a little bit impractical in calling out Rand in the midst of an important Senate election.

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    RJ Harris can kiss my ass. He burned every last bridge with me when he thought insulting Rand would divert more money into his own coffers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Harris burned most bridges with Paul supporters in 2009.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/115541/the-...ecent-comments
    And why should I be angered by his comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    RJ Harris can kiss my ass. He burned every last bridge with me when he thought insulting Rand would divert more money into his own coffers.
    How did he insult Rand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    How did he insult Rand?
    Publicly criticizing the only leading liberty candidate, at a time just after he had taken a three point lead in the polls. Harris was clearly trying to get people to donate to him by going after Rand Paul. What purpose did he have to attack Paul anyway? Harris was a candidate for a House seat in Oklahoma, Paul was a candidate for the U.S. Senate in Kentucky, and both were in the same political party. Harris could have gone after any number of socialist Democrats or neocon Republicans or his actual primary opponent (shocking idea, sure), but he choose to go after, again, the only one of "our" major liberty candidates with a lead in the polls at the time.

    Not to mention Harris used fake polls from Persistence Consulting (same as used by Bill Johnson in Kentucky) to make his race seem winnable and to get people to donate. See also:

    http://okiepundit.com/?p=2664
    Last edited by RonPaulFanInGA; 04-16-2012 at 12:09 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Publicly criticizing the only leading liberty candidate, at a time just after he had taken a three point lead in the polls. Harris was clearly trying to get people to donate to him by going after Rand Paul. What purpose did he have to attack Paul anyway?
    You sound like the stereotypical republican who stands by party unity rather than principles. What, Rand or his father are immune to criticism from those who care about liberty? Nothing in Harris' post suggests that he was bashing Rand so you're just grasping at straws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Harris burned most bridges with Paul supporters in 2009.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/115541/the-...ecent-comments
    Didn't realize he was that blackballed. I personally don't care for the guy, but he seemed popular so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NIU Students for Liberty View Post
    You sound like the stereotypical republican who stands by party unity rather than principles. What, Rand or his father are immune to criticism from those who care about liberty? Nothing in Harris' post suggests that he was bashing Rand so you're just grasping at straws.
    It happened. Harris' fundraising was sucking air, so he apparently thought if he bashed Rand effectively enough, that people would channel their donations to him, instead.
    I have many friends in the libertarian movement who look down on those of us who get involved in political activity,
    he acknowledged, but "eventually, if you want to bring about changes what you have to do is participate in political
    action.
    -- Ron Paul


    "We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% the same on issues." "People Try To Drive Wedges Between Rand And Me." --Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIU Students for Liberty View Post
    What, Rand or his father are immune to criticism from those who care about liberty? Nothing in Harris' post suggests that he was bashing Rand so you're just grasping at straws.
    Harris chose to go after Rand Paul. Why not anyone else? Are we to believe Paul was the most egregious candidate for office out there, and that Harris was so moved to speak, or was there some other motive?

    Harris was trying to rally an upset DailyPaul to ditch Paul and donate to him. That's what he was doing, plain as day. Ron Paul never used his race in TX-14 to go after a freshman candidate in, say, NY-3. Rand Paul was not Harris' opponent, so why say anything? Especially when Paul was closer to him ideologically than almost any other federal candidate running that year. Harris' choice to attack Paul unprovoked was just bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Harris chose to go after Rand Paul. Why not anyone else? Are we to believe Paul was the most egregious candidate for office out there, and that Harris was so move to speak, or was there some other motive?

    Harris was trying to rally an upset DailyPaul to ditch Paul and donate to him. That's what he was doing, plain as day. Ron Paul never used his race in TX-14 to go after a freshman candidate in, say, NY-3. Rand Paul was not Harris' opponent, so why say anything? Especially when Paul was closer to him ideologically than almost any other foederal candidate running that year. Harris' choice to attack Paul unprovoked was just bizarre.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. I must have missed this a couple years ago.
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    He's running as an independent? Seems like a waste of time and money, to be completely honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JebSanderson View Post
    He's running as an independent? Seems like a waste of time and money, to be completely honest.
    Not for everyone, but for him - yeah.
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