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[hard@work]

Who said anything about Rino's horn? I'm not aware of that being used in CTM. It certainly wasn't used by my practitioner. You missed part of my point. CTM can cure impotence by correcting your kidneys and blood flow. Viagra can't do this.

Nope, I already got that point. And yes rino horn is proscribed by some Chinese "medicine" practitioners for impotence. It's a huge problem for Africa and one of the reasons rhinos are almost extinct. And a few other animal substances with absolutely no efficacy. The greater point here?

There are benefits to many methodologies of healing human beings. It takes a free market for the greatest to shine. Remember this. I understand that herbal or dietary medicine can be much more effective than a laboratory pill. I understand that some laboratory pills can create effects impossible with nature.

I choose to understand both and make a free choice from there. Now if you don't mind I'm going to go have a nice cup of pu'er tea with my omega 3 fish oil. Get it?

[tttppp]

Nope, I already got that point. And yes rino horn is proscribed by some Chinese "medicine" practitioners for impotence. It's a huge problem for Africa and one of the reasons rhinos are almost extinct. And a few other animal substances with absolutely no efficacy. The greater point here?

There are benefits to many methodologies of healing human beings. It takes a free market for the greatest to shine. Remember this. I understand that herbal or dietary medicine can be much more effective than a laboratory pill. I understand that some laboratory pills can create effects impossible with nature.

I choose to understand both and make a free choice from there.

I can't argue with most of that. Except for Rino's horn. The success of that herb has nothing to do with CTM. CTM can cure impotence and numerous other problems without Rino's horn. There are plenty of herbs used by idiots that have nothing to do with real CTM. That doesn't mean CTM doesn't work.

[Son of Detroit]

I'm not the one telling people their posts are ridiculous, without even providing an argument to back it up. This another example of someone who is overwhelmed by a topic, so he resorts to bashing people and avoiding any discussion.

I need an argument to prove that you aren't better at diagnosing illnesses than a medical doctor?

[tttppp]

I need an argument to prove that you aren't better at diagnosing illnesses than a medical doctor?

I certainly don't have the skill yet to cure people's illnesses, but I could definitely gain a pretty good understand of the root cause of people's problems. Doctors on the other hand, have no clue how to diagnose illnesses.

[Son of Detroit]

I certainly don't have the skill yet to cure people's illnesses, but I could definitely gain a pretty good understand of the root cause of people's problems. Doctors on the other hand, have no clue how to diagnose illnesses.

This is why I can't form an argument, because your arguments aren't even arguments. They're blanket statements that can't be argued for or against.

You say that doctors have no clue how to diagnose illnesses. I say that doctors know how to diagnose illnesses.

Okay? Now what? Give me some scientific based arguments, not your opinions.

[tttppp]

Most methods of diagnosis for doctors tell you whether the patient needs some kind of emergency care. If you are not in need of emergency care, they will simply ignore you. For example, they will tell you if need a new liver, kidney, heart, if you have diabetes, cancer, etc. But they won't tell you you have an imbalance that needs to get corrected if you are not in need of emergency care. You can have a terrible liver and kidneys, and doctors will simply ignore it if you don't need a new liver or kidneys. Additionally, they have no method to correct your liver or kidneys if you do have a problem.

[Son of Detroit]

Ok, I'll play your game. A person comes into your office with regurgitation of blood due to a defect in the mitral valve of the heart. How do you attempt to fix this?

[tttppp]

Ok, I'll play your game. A person comes into your office with regurgitation of blood due to a defect in the mitral valve of the heart. How do you attempt to fix this?

My guess is that if you are regurgitating blood, you would need emergency assistance. I already stated western medicine is best for emergencies.

I would need more information to determine what imbalance is causing that to happen. The best solution would be for the doctors to do as little as possible, and allow acupuncture to cure the problem. If you give me more information, I could be more specific on what needs to be fixed.

[hard@work]

Ok, I'll play your game. A person comes into your office with regurgitation of blood due to a defect in the mitral valve of the heart. How do you attempt to fix this?

Burn incense and spritz essence of mango nut on the left armpit. Duh.

[hard@work]

I can't argue with most of that. Except for Rino's horn. The success of that herb has nothing to do with CTM. CTM can cure impotence and numerous other problems without Rino's horn. There are plenty of herbs used by idiots that have nothing to do with real CTM. That doesn't mean CTM doesn't work.

Yeah but that's too general. Chinese medicine or healing practices are varied. It's not one system. Neither is allopathic medicine or chiropractic. MD's and DC's fight like crazy and work to censor progress with each other's systems. Fact of life, and it happens in China too. You may be strong in faith with your personal beliefs but that does not mean you they are absolute. And your chosen health system is human, it is not infallible.

The worst science is censorship science. And we have an abundance of that in the US. The difference is in the US about 100 years ago the allopaths took control of government regulation. So Chinese medicine is suppressed and censored. I'm not saying you're right or wrong in your belief in the system. I am saying that your right to show proof of efficacy or provide care without retribution is being suppressed.

But that's still not why we have spies reporting to foreign powers what is being taught in our schools.