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    Lincoln was in the hip pocket of Money Power





    New Tim Burton film features Abraham Lincoln, vampires ... "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" to premiere in June 2012 ... While sitting in the theater waiting for "The Hunger Games" to start, I witnessed the most fantastically ridiculous trailer I've seen in a long time. It began when a slender man of large stature with the token beard, chiseled chin and tall top hat appeared on the screen. It was evident that he was Abraham Lincoln. When the trailer began, it looked like this movie might be some interesting, slightly morbid take on our 16th president's life. Or at least something that loosely follows documented history. But then the trailer cut to scenes of Honest Abe wielding an axe like he attended some brute weapons combat school. The slow-motion shot of Abe with his axe, though borderline cheesy, looked edgy. – Daily Wildcat

    Dominant Social Theme:
    Abraham Lincoln − so great he even kills vampires.


    Free-Market Analysis:
    The cult of Lincoln continues unabated. Now comes another movie glorifying the Great Emancipator − see excerpt above.


    It is a "mash up" in which several genres are combined, fictionally. This mash up was initially fiction that combined the historical Lincoln with the vampire sub-genre.


    The author was purposefully clever − or just lucky − to have featured Lincoln at a time when the powers-that-be are increasingly desperate for pro-government propaganda. We figure in this era of the Internet, Lincoln looks like a valuable figure to those who want to reinforce the primacy of government.


    The dynastic families that apparently run central banks along with their enablers and associates are continually attempting to bolster statist heroes like Lincoln because these elites maintain control via mercantilism. They need government, the bigger the better, to efficaciously move toward a New World Order.


    The power elite that wants to run the world is having a tough time of it these days. What we call the Internet Reformation is daily exposing the dominant social themes it uses to frighten people into giving up power and wealth to globalist institutions.


    One of the biggest dominant social themes is the one of the "leader." We are constantly bombarded, in the West, with the idea that good political leadership will lead to good political results.


    In fact, the political process is entirely one of price-fixing. Real leadership is actually practiced within the private sector and is the result of Misesian human action, the only kind that counts.


    The Invisible Hand of competition makes society work. The dead hand of legal authoritarianism causes economic problems, recessions, depressions and ultimately war.


    The power elite has made Lincoln into a hero and the Civil War into an admirable exercise in freeing slaves. But the slavery economy would have ended anyway with the advent of the industrial revolution. It did in England without a war.


    The Civil War − the War Between the States − was a terrible affair and probably hurt black people as well as helped them. The legacy of bitterness and hatred was overwhelming and is only gradually being overcome ... if it actually is.


    From our perspective, Lincoln is no hero. He set the South ablaze, killed innocents and virtually knocked down whole cities. Atlanta has never recovered.


    He was also a statist politician who believed in the primacy of the state and was willing to arrest people without cause and trample the Constitution to pursue his goal of keeping the union together.


    In this modern era, Lincoln has been made a hero by the neo-Greenbacker movement blossoming around the Internet, especially in the alternative press − led in part by Ellen Brown, author of the Web of Debt.


    Ellen Brown is a likeable woman, dedicated to Greenbackerism, but her affection for the power of the state is discouraging, in our view, and we've written about this a number of times.


    We believe more in private money and competitive money systems, including private clearinghouses, fractional reserve and anything else that someone wants to try. We believe within this context, silver and gold would find their place, as historical bimetallism always has.


    Greenbackers, on the other hand, believe that government itself − if properly run "for the people" can issue fiat money and spend its way to prosperity.


    Greenbackers like Ellen Brown make the case that Lincoln was a Greenbacker. And aficionados of "directed history" make the point that Lincoln, alone, stood against a power elite – European – plot to divide the US into two distinct countries to lessen its clout.


    This perspective has made Lincoln a "hero" of sorts, even within the alternative media that should know better.

    Politicians are not heroes nor can they be, given what they have to do and the alliances they have to make. Lincoln set in motion a war that murdered millions. He didn't likely HAVE to start a war, but he did.


    Lincoln was at the center of one of the most powerful and divisive countries on Earth. The idea that he was a "killer" of European banking bloodsuckers is an attractive one, but hardly the truth.


    The Lincoln portrayed by neo-Greenbackers has been debunked by two Austrian-oriented free-market thinkers, historian Thomas DiLorenzo and economist Gary North.


    Interestingly, they come to somewhat different conclusions about Lincoln's statist affections. DiLorenzo believes that Lincoln was pro-central banking and perhaps supported by the New York banking establishment.


    Dr. Gary North believes that Lincoln was supportive of gold and silver and disparaging of fiat generally, including Greenbacks.


    Whatever the truth, there is no doubt that Lincoln was a mass murderer who basically suspended the Constitution and prosecuted a bloody war that he might have been able to find an alternative to.


    Bottom line: From our humble point of view, Lincoln was in the hip pocket of Money Power.


    European Money Power wanted a US war and Lincoln gave it one. When it was over, the US Republican exception was finished. Imperium had arrived. Things have only grown worse since.


    The power elite has NEVER started a war, or not for the past 300 years or so, without controlling BOTH sides of the conflict. That's what directed history tells us. Hitler, Napoleon, the Kaiser (WWI) − in each case, Money Power seemingly controlled and funded the "enemy."


    Why on Earth are we to believe that Lincoln − above all − was somehow immune to this formula? Most likely he was not.


    No, he must have prosecuted a war at the bequest of Money Power and when it was done, they threw him over.


    It really doesn't matter whether Lincoln was pro- or anti-Greenbacks. First of all, Greenbackerism doesn't work in the long run. Governments always print too much money when they have the chance and thus debase the currency.


    That's why fiat schemes eventually wither − just as the dollar reserve system is withering. It doesn't matter who does the printing. It's the monopoly that matters.


    But secondly and more important, Lincoln was evidently and obviously trapped in the elite dialectic − as all others have been in the modern era. To argue otherwise is surely naïve.


    To argue that his death was specifically as a result of the intention to create more Greenbacks is equally naïve. He was part of the Money Power that he was supposedly confronting.


    He wasn't standing alone, heroically, against Money Power. He was a creature of it. He must have been.

    Understand this and the Civil War − and his crazed actions − suddenly snap into focus. It was more directed history, and Lincoln was one more puppet. The result of the war, as planned, was the collapse of American exceptionalism and the rise of Leviathan.


    Lincoln, with his profound and absurd veneration for a "nation" (see his creepy Gettysburg address) played his role with greater or lesser enthusiasm. Perhaps he knew his fate would be death; perhaps not.

    But he swam in deep waters and he must have appreciated their depth and danger.


    John Kennedy was not assassinated because he signed an executive order for the issuance of Silver Certificates. Alternative historians have written on this folk theory extensively and proved it to be a modern myth. Lincoln was probably not assassinated simply because he somehow stood up against Money Power ... elites that, in fact, had likely helped place him where he was.


    What we CAN draw from ongoing Greenbacker speculation is that the world is not as simple a place as "Neo-Gs" would like to make out.


    In this case, it is most interesting − especially given the upcoming Lincoln movie.


    Conclusion:
    All the world's a stage / And all the men and women merely players / They have their exits and their entrances / And one man in his time plays many parts ... − William Shakespeare


    Ed Note:
    This article was inspired in part by a dialogue over at an Alex Jones website that posted an article of ours, "Elite Meme: Anything Is Better Than Gold." A friend alerted us to the thread and his comments.
    http://www.thedailybell.com/3774/Lin...or-Money-Power



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    Dang, I meant to post this in General Politics. Hope a mod will move it.

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    The movie isn't about Lincoln worship. It's based on a graphic novel of the same name. Basically anyone who died in Lincoln's life was killed by vampires and he is a vampire hunter as well as being POTUS.

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    The point isn't whether the movie is historically accurate or not. By portraying Lincoln as a vengeful savior of the people, albeit it a vampire hunter, it glorifies him further. It's like I can't stand Hellboy not because of the characters or acting but because it makes FDR look heroic and forward-thinking.
    Last edited by BrooklynZoo; 04-09-2012 at 12:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynZoo View Post
    The point isn't whether the movie is historically accurate or not. By portraying Lincoln as a vengeful savior of the people, albeit it a vampire hunter, it glorifies him further. It's like I can't stand Hellboy not because of the characters or acting but because it makes FDR look heroic and forward-thinking.
    It's fiction. Who cares?

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    its bad fiction sight unseen and trivilizes
    both or all sides and our tragic civil war

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    Another movie glorifying Lincoln may get the discussion going on both the success and failure of his presidency.

    How Lincoln came to be in the hip pocket of the money powers is very interesting in itself. Abe grew up in poverty and received very little formal education. Abe's father, Thomas, was nearly killed in May 1786 at the age of eight by the same Indian that ambushed and killed his father, "Captain" Abraham, while they were working in the fields of Kentucky.

    When Abe was young, slavery was dividing the country as "States Rights" determined which state should be slave and which should be free. Thomas Lincoln was an abolitionist, so Abe grew up with abolitionist tendencies.

    Many of the abolitionists were rich. Gerrit Smith was one of Secret Six funding John Brown's terrorism.

    Abraham was born in Kentucky (Slave State) and the Lincoln family moved to Indiana (Free State) where they lived until Abe was 21. The Lincoln family moved to Illinois in 1829-30 and Illinois was playing a pivotal role as refuge for runaway slaves with the Underground Railroad.

    Lincoln became popular during the Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858 as Stephen Douglas defended "States Rights" and Lincoln defending the Declaration that "all men are created equal" sort of... here is a revealing quote,
    As Lincoln said,
    I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects—certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man.

    As Lincoln said,
    This declared indifference, but, as I must think, covert real zeal for the spread of slavery, I cannot but hate. I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself. I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world—enables the enemies of free institutions, with plausibility, to taunt us as hypocrites—causes the real friends of freedom to doubt our sincerity, and especially because it forces so many really good men amongst ourselves into an open war with the very fundamental principles of civil liberty—criticizing the Declaration of Independence, and insisting that there is no right principle of action but self-interest.
    The best-known passage of The House Divided Speech speech is:
    A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new — North as well as South.
    Within months after Lincoln took office Jay Cooke and Secretary of Treasury Salmon P. Chase started printing money and debasing currency to pay for the war with the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in direct violation of the Constitution and the Coinage Act of 1792. The subsequent National Banking Acts of 1863 & 1864 forever changed the way banking was done in America. Lincoln's presidency ignored much of the Constitution and forever changed the course of the country. The Western States are still widely owned by the Federal government while almost all of the Eastern States are owned by individuals. Those were turbulent times for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    It's fiction. Who cares?
    What do mean? Because it's fiction nothing is to be taken seriously? It's ok to have false premises?



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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    What do mean? Because it's fiction nothing is to be taken seriously? It's ok to have false premises?
    Yes, it isn't to be taken seriously. If someone wants to right a fictional book called Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter then they are free to glorify him as much as they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    Yes, it isn't to be taken seriously. If someone wants to right a fictional book called Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter then they are free to glorify him as much as they want.
    So replace Lincoln with Hitler and you're free to glorify Hitler as much as you want?

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    nicholas cage running around after a big "national treasure"
    that never existed in his string of movies is less far fetched.

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    But I thought that THEY had Lincoln killed?!

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    Lightbulb there is a fictional film that looks at what happened

    yes, by dragging a very very big celebrity name into this
    and also a very well known historical incident, this lil ole
    vampire novel is to be the ruination of horror as a genre.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbglik8jh68 enjoy!!!
    Last edited by Aratus; 04-09-2012 at 04:04 PM. Reason: i like nick cage

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    Can anyone prove that Lincoln wasn't a vampire hunter?

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    actually it is harder to prove that all the dead are not vampires
    an' ole Honest Abe is at least encased in concrete so getting in
    and out of his coffin has to be a daunting task. it may be much
    easier to prove that he's stayed put these last 146 years or so.

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    some vampire hunters slip up and can get fanged. occupational hazard.



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    Bit off topic but this pocket/president talk reminded of this post posted in Obama thread.
    Did they have political caricatures like these in newspapers when Lincoln was in the W House?


    But his real religion is probably same as that of McCain, that is to obey his puppet masters for opportunistic self interest. Following is bit exaggerated caricature of Obama that was reproduced by an Israeli paper but many in mideast seem to see him in such a light:






    Important thing is to educate people enough about his actions reflecting his beliefs so that the plant does not start another US war with Iran to serve interests of its masters regardless of what his religion is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    So replace Lincoln with Hitler and you're free to glorify Hitler as much as you want?
    Yep. There's that key word in my sentence: fiction.

    Not to mention that Neo-Nazis have glorified Hitler in fiction already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    But I thought that THEY had Lincoln killed?!

    THEY were done with him.

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    Gotta lionize Lincoln so that when the murder of scores of citizens happens at the hands of the government, it can be justified and called heroic and 'for freedom' like it was in the Civil War

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    Gotta lionize Lincoln so that when the murder of scores of citizens happens at the hands of the government, it can be justified and called heroic and 'for freedom' like it was in the Civil War
    It is a lot deeper than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    But I thought that THEY had Lincoln killed?!
    Yes, the vampires.

    The money sucking ones that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    Yep. There's that key word in my sentence: fiction.

    Not to mention that Neo-Nazis have glorified Hitler in fiction already.
    You don't understand fiction. There has to be some truth in it to be believable. They are using an actual historic figure and in doing so perpetuating myths about him, not in the name of good story writing, but either out of ignorance or for the same reason these lies are perpetuated in schools and culture: to undermine the Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    You don't understand fiction. There has to be some truth in it to be believable. They are using an actual historic figure and in doing so perpetuating myths about him, not in the name of good story writing, but either out of ignorance or for the same reason these lies are perpetuated in schools and culture: to undermine the Republic.
    I repeat: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter

    If you take anything seriously in this movie or the graphic novel you read into things way too much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    I repeat: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter

    If you take anything seriously in this movie or the graphic novel you read into things way too much.
    That doesn't mean it's incapable of perpetuating lies.



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