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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    The mercury in vaccines is ethyl mercury, which has a half-life of about 10 days. Methyl mercury, however, is the form that bioaccumulates through the food chain.
    That doesn't mean it doesn't do damage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    The mercury in vaccines is ethyl mercury, which has a half-life of about 10 days. Methyl mercury, however, is the form that bioaccumulates through the food chain.
    ethylmercury and methylmercury are both neurotoxins. Ethylmercury is slightly less toxic than methymercury, but both are still a toxin nevertheless. Children receive nearly 36 vaccines before entering Kindergarten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domalais View Post
    It is safe. It was removed from the vaccines on the basis of fraudulent medical studies like this one, concocted by doctors who discovered that they can make money hand over fist by milking parents of disabled children.

    The old vaccine did contain thimerosal. It was removed in 2001. The new version undoubtedly contains a different additive to prevent fungal and bacterial growth; adding thimerosal in doesn't make it identical to the old vaccine. It's purely lawsuit bait.

    If they really wanted to examine the issue they would have had a group of monkeys without the added thimerosal and another with, plus the control. But that comes with the risk of ending their gravy train. The doctors involved make good money selling chelation therapy to rich, gullible parents.
    So does this mean I should stop taking my Copaxone? I was prescribed it by my new doc, he is a Neurologist and a Multiple Sclerosis specialist, shortly after being vaccinated for Hepatitus B back in 2009. About a week after my 3rd shot I got seriously sick. I refer to it as the SuperFlu meets a world class butt whopping and withing a few months it struck hard so I went up the ladder through docs and specialists and I was sitting in my new MS docs office being diagnosed with MS. The MRI with contrast was quite interesting. The vaccine product insert does say that in their double-blind studies Multiple Sclerosis was documented as one of the Adverse Reactions. Guess I was one of the lucky ones. However, the vaccine I took did not contain thimerosal so that means there is still a problem with these safe vaccines. I guess its fortunate, for the pharmaceutical companies that is, that they now have a scape goat and that they no longer use it. Maybe were looking in the wrong place. I remember breaking a thermometer in the lab once and my boss, Ph D, freaked about no physical contact at all. Not sure on the specifics of each type of mercuric compound but I do know its very bad stuff to living tissues. There was a problem with vaccines back then and there still is. It may have been the mercury compound then, it may be something else now, or both could have done the damage. And to think I actually did medical/pharmaceutical research for them. I don't anymore, my MS is about to put me out of work for good. But it is comforting to have all these experts telling me there is nothing to see here and that this is just about law suites and making money, that should make all the difference.
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    The concerning part is the amount of the stuff (and not just mercury) they put in those vaccines exceed the standard level for IV fluids. And yes, I have tunas but I don't inject it to my bloodstream. Yes, some vaccines are important...but I caught the measles when I was young, my brother caught the mumps and pretty much all of the kids in my grade school caught rubella. Some of the vaccination should totally be categorized as "big government in bed with big pharmaceutical". Gardisil they tried and failed. But Hep B is a sexually transmitted disease and you want to give it to my one day old baby? Give me a break.

    We delayed giving vaccines to our kids. When we can't enroll our kids to school because they are not vaccinated, that to me is a coercion. It presumes that they know what's "better" for my family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark37snj View Post
    So does this mean I should stop taking my Copaxone? I was prescribed it by my new doc, he is a Neurologist and a Multiple Sclerosis specialist, shortly after being vaccinated for Hepatitus B back in 2009.
    So no thimerosal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark37snj View Post
    However, the vaccine I took did not contain thimerosal so that means there is still a problem with these safe vaccines. I guess its fortunate, for the pharmaceutical companies that is, that they now have a scape goat and that they no longer use it. Maybe were looking in the wrong place.
    That's the point I was making in the post that you quoted. The antivax studies, such as this one, could prove that thimerosal isn't the problem, but they choose not to.

    For them, uncertainty is the most profitable. If it's not the thimerosal, then they can't sell chelation therapy and other mercury-related treatments. If it is the thimerosal, then they can't scam parents of children vaccinated since 2001. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark37snj View Post
    I remember breaking a thermometer in the lab once and my boss, Ph D, freaked about no physical contact at all. Not sure on the specifics of each type of mercuric compound but I do know its very bad stuff to living tissues.
    A thermometer has a bit more than 5 micrograms in it.
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    It's not easy to absorb elemental mercury into the bloodstream via skin contact, and very unlikely to be harmful. The way it's generally dangerous is if it's breathed in.

    What's important in a mercury spill, is making sure that you get it all cleaned up, so it isn't sitting around slowly evaporating into the air. If there is some remaining that can't be picked up, or you think there is (in a crack in the floor or something), sprinkle a generous amount of sulfur on it. Sulfur will absorb it and make it more visible as it binds with the mercury. For a spill that I had to clean up, I found that a heavy-gauge syringe worked best to suck it up (used an old syringe that was for injecting chemicals into an old gas chromatograph) then I gently squirted it into a beaker of sulfur under a hood.

    I'm sure you all have that equipment in your home.
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    Glad that you guys brought that up...how about the new cork screw light bulbs that have mercury in them. It is said that if you drop or brake one, you should call a Hazmat team out to clean it up. The very worst thing you should do is try to vacuum it up. Vacuum it will blow mercury out into the air.

    So a combination of these new light bulbs and all the crap in our environment maybe having an impact on our health after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Glad that you guys brought that up...how about the new cork screw light bulbs that have mercury in them. It is said that if you drop or brake one, you should call a Hazmat team out to clean it up. The very worst thing you should do is try to vacuum it up. Vacuum it will blow mercury out into the air.

    So a combination of these new light bulbs and all the crap in our environment may having an impact on our health after all.
    Yup.. Just recently changed all my bulbs that were cfl to daylight incandescent bulbs.. mercury vapor leaks from these while they are on.. In what amount I don't know and I don't care..

    Also mercury is not safe in any form and injecting it without the barrier of the digestive tract is even more unsafe.. Especially for children..
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Glad that you guys brought that up...how about the new cork screw light bulbs that have mercury in them. It is said that if you drop or brake one, you should call a Hazmat team out to clean it up. The very worst thing you should do is try to vacuum it up. Vacuum it will blow mercury out into the air.

    So a combination of these new light bulbs and all the crap in our environment may having an impact on our health after all.
    You are half right. They do contain mercury, and you can spread it through the house by vacuuming or sweeping it up. You don't have to call hazmat though... the clean up process is a bitch though. You have to open all the windows, evacuate the house for a couple of hours and use duct tape to pick up all the pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simon1911 View Post
    We delayed giving vaccines to our kids. When we can't enroll our kids to school because they are not vaccinated, that to me is a coercion. It presumes that they know what's "better" for my family.
    There's a line between deciding what is best for your family and forcing other children to bear the consequences for the decisions you made regarding your own. I support your right to not vaccinate, however ludicrous I think it is, but I don't believe any group, public or private, has an obligation to provide services them.

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