Last time I checked, malkusm and I are two different people.Originally Posted by angelatc
What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through?
A box of rain will ease the pain, and love will see you through.
Box of Rain, Grateful Dead
निर्विकल्पा
aka Wicked Heathen
I was a nasty woman before Trump made it cool.
Now I guess there is an explanation for those who wished to have their accounts deleted. Perhaps they didn't want to use their old account anymore and decided to make a new account to use instead.
Seems to me like if the old account doesn't get used anymore, the new account would be fine to have.
Yes, that is obviously the same as banning people who have multiple accounts in order to avoid bans, pat themselves on the back, and disrupt the forums. It is obviously the same as having a political forum without posts that put forth that marriage is a license to have sex with your wife whenever you want, whether or not she agrees (what some might call "rape"). It is definitely the same as trying to keep a forum dedicated to the Mission Statement's ideas from turning into a porn-posting, faptastic corner of the internet where calling for the deaths of Government agents or cheering when they're killed is the latest fashion.
THAT is your benchmark? A guy who was telling us just recently how Christian he was, shortly before he started personally insulting people and talking about the aforementioned contract that entitles a spouse to sex regardless of current consent?Yep. Especially considering eduardo just got banned.
This is getting stupid.
If it was a mistake to use their real name, then they will create an alt account and stop using the first one, perhaps even asking that it be deleted. Or they will ask the mods for a name change. That's not a sock puppet account. These accounts are being used simultaneously, often in the same threads to appear as if more people agree or disagree with something than really do. There are rules against self-bumping threads too much, but this gets around those. There are rules on every forum and chatroom with mods, and I've never been in one where ban-evasion was okay. I've also never seen one that encouraged people using multiple accounts to give themselves a louder "voice."
No, he said he'd stop using his old account when it got enough rep bars. Curiously, he used both at the same time even during the thread he said that. If he had used an account, abandoned it, and then started using a totally different one and never going back to the old one (or deleting it), then it would not have caused such an issue.
Ban evasion. Self-bumping. Self-agreement. Flooding. Cross-rep. Misdirection (much easier when you seem to have many people agreeing with you). Bumping a lot of old threads up so that current threads are no longer new, and old contraversial threads garner more posts and attention than urgent, time-sensitive things.
I could think of more, I'm sure
If you don't already have someone's information, then that does suck. As the mods have said repeatedly, though, eduardo's main account was banned for a week. Heck, it's part over already. This place IS starting to suck bigtime, but it's not because the mods are on some authoritarian banning spree. It is because people do not take the time to realize there really are rules when you walk into someone's house, and some folks are upset that someone was seen out the door for crapping in the ficus in the corner.I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at. I was expecting a link to the "sock puppet posted" thread. You just gave me a link to his member page.
Edit: I clicked on the recent visitor messages to see if that was the "evidence" you were alluding to. All that I saw was Danke asking for his email address. Which reminds me. I'd like it to. He posted a question to me in a +rep that he gave me a while back and I'd been meaning to get back with him on it.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
I'm going to repost this here because I don't think you saw it in the other thread. I'm not sure about the insulting people, I haven't read through all his posts, but he didn't insult anyone in the thread you're talking about (although he did tell you to "chill the **** out) and he was obviously not talking about or condoning rape if you look at the earlier posts where he talked about suing for monetary compensation, not for forced sex as you allude to.
-------------------
I agree with the rule against anonymous second accounts. There's no real point to them except to disrupt the forums. I've seen it happen in another forum I used to post on and it just gets silly.
I'm new here and I haven't made friends yet (and I hope not to get banned hehe) but in any case, I'd like to make friends and if you want you can add me on Facebookthe link to my page is in my forum profile
Last edited by NikolayaRadchenkova; 04-07-2012 at 01:22 PM.
Honestly, people, I don't know what all of you have your shorts in a twist for about this. Not allowing sock puppet accounts is nothing new. It has never been ok to have multiple accounts. All Josh and the Mods did was to make it official and add it to the forum guidelines.
If any of you think being a Mod is an easy job, let me tell you that it isn't. As much as some of you may like to believe that you would just love it if this place was unmoderated, I can almost guarantee you that you would not. There are a whole lot of things that the Mods handle so quickly, that you don't even know they happened. You have no idea the number of trolls that have popped on this forum; not to mention posts that needed to quickly be removed, unless you personally wanted a visit from Homeland Security. Add that to the combining of duplicate threads, moving threads just dumped in Grassroots Central into the subforum they should have been posted in to begin with, and on and on.
So, lay off them, how about, and just maybe consider thanking them for all the unpaid time they spend moderating this place, while being insulted by the very people they are trying to help.
================
Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Can't argue with that.
Big Brother is quite real, this site is being watched, and "stepping over the line" will get you a visit from Officer Friendly.
Yikes! I probably shouldn't be posting with my real name :/
zend2.com online proxy
And it seems I'm not the only one who uses it...
Ahhh.. Noticed that lol.. My mistake
Last edited by Kotin; 04-07-2012 at 03:53 PM.
The ultimate minority is the individual. Protect the individual from Democracy and you will protect all groups of individualsRightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. - Thomas JeffersonI must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
- Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
Since someone is hopping around and tsk-tsking at me about the notion of eduardo advocating rape, what precisely do you call the above?The only contract that I believe does implicitly provide for all the sex I could want is marriage
"Hey even if she doesn't want it, I married her, so I'm takin' it" does not sound like consensual relations to me. Your opinion obviously differs.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
He never said "all the sex I could ever want...even if she doesn't want it, I'll take it".
Anyway, I'm not going to discuss this further. I stated my view on this already. I think you're wrong for suggesting he advocates rape and I think the mods should delete that because it is libel and it is a personal attack against another member and it's quite low, especially because he doesn't have the opportunity to defend himself. I'm going to butt out of it now, and he can defend himself if he wants when he gets back. I'm going to go back to posting on other topics.
Last edited by NikolayaRadchenkova; 04-07-2012 at 04:50 PM.
All I'll say on this topic is, three separate users reported the post for advocating rape. So, if he wasn't, maybe he should be more clear next time, so as not to give off the impression.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I'm guessing Melissa was one.
And if it's such a horrible post, why hasn't it been removed?
Incorrect.
We rarely remove posts unless they are direct attacks or blatant misinfo on the campaign. As you can see, if we were to remove the post, moderators would be tarred and feathered for not being able to provide an adequate reason for any ban.
Last edited by malkusm; 04-07-2012 at 04:59 PM.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Where did he say "I will rape my wife if she doesn't have sex with me?"
Anyway, as I said I'm not going to get further involved. I just think its really low of Melissa of say that he's an advocate or defender of rape.
Last edited by NikolayaRadchenkova; 04-07-2012 at 04:59 PM.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/h...subpoena/11528
Everything you do online is monitored.
Checkout what facebook sends the cops when subpoened everything you have ever done on facebook.
http://issuu.com/thebostonphoenix/do...&pageNumber=10
Oddly, I wasn't one. I did speak to eduardo about it, though.
For someone who was going to butt out, you certainly have almost none of the facts and all the opinion.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
While I did not mean that all power is a negative concept, I believe it may have come across as such. My point was that power is a very interesting concept. It has been said that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely." The power to print money, or the power to force sanctions on a people, or the power to bomb a country is dangerous power that politicians seem to take lightly. That is the power of government. The power to ban someone from a forum is a demonstration of power, but the consequences are nil. I did not mean banning someone from a forum is comparable to bombing a country... all I meant was that the concept of power is universal.
Last edited by Travlyr; 04-07-2012 at 05:35 PM.
How do you enforce this? If I make an alternate account with an entirely new name, how would you ever know?
IP address. Proxies are how Fire11 comes back.
"We are like butterflies who flutter for a day and think it's forever."
-Carl Sagan
Can you stop derailing the discussion in this thread? Thanks.
Last edited by Phil; 04-07-2012 at 06:52 PM.
"We are like butterflies who flutter for a day and think it's forever."
-Carl Sagan
Last edited by Nirvikalpa; 04-07-2012 at 06:57 PM.
What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through?
A box of rain will ease the pain, and love will see you through.
Box of Rain, Grateful Dead
निर्विकल्पा
aka Wicked Heathen
I was a nasty woman before Trump made it cool.
I'm closing this thread.
Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
Thank you for pointing out my typo. I'm on my phone. What a great quality post from a mod, though.
"We are like butterflies who flutter for a day and think it's forever."
-Carl Sagan
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Please stop, you're going to scare away the new members.
"We are like butterflies who flutter for a day and think it's forever."
-Carl Sagan
"It's fine to contribute to derailing a thread if you're a mod."
Why isn't that in the forum guidelines?
Go look at the first post. It's MY thread. You're free to derail your own threads as much as you want.
+ Posts should respect the intent and desires of the Topic Starter.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Posting Permissions
Connect With Us