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    Alternate/"sock puppet" accounts are NOT allowed

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    [Note: The forum announcement is temporary; this thread is permanent. Thus, the thread.]

    Anyone caught posting on an alternate, or "sock puppet" account (i.e. using two accounts at once), will be banned for doing so (both on their original and alternate accounts). This includes using a new account if your old account is banned.

    First offense: Two-week ban for main account, permanent ban for all alternate accounts.
    Second offense: Permanent ban of all user accounts. (This includes using a new account if your account is temporarily banned.)

    Thanks,

    -Matt

    P.S. - Yes, this includes Matt Collins.





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    You're not making the claim that there's no objective best diet, are you?
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  3. #2
    What about kludge/kluge?

  4. #3
    Kludge's old account has been inactive since 12/30/2011. AFAIK Kluge is a shared Kludge-and-amy account since amy lost the login to her old account.

    But yes, this will be universally enforced, and does apply to Kluge.
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    You're not making the claim that there's no objective best diet, are you?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  5. #4
    i am going
    to miss ZZ!
    fair is fair.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by malkusm View Post
    [Note: The forum announcement is temporary; this thread is permanent. Thus, the thread.]

    Anyone caught posting on an alternate, or "sock puppet" account (i.e. using two accounts at once), will be banned for doing so (both on their original and alternate accounts). This includes using a new account if your old account is banned.

    First offense: Two-week ban for main account, permanent ban for all alternate accounts.
    Second offense: Permanent ban of all user accounts. (This includes using a new account if your account is temporarily banned.)

    Thanks,

    -Matt

    P.S. - Yes, this includes Matt Collins.
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  7. #6
    Looks like Roy L and his sock puppet are doomed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Looks like Roy L and his sock puppet are doomed.
    JohnLVT was already banned.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    JohnLVT was already banned.
    oic. Wasn't there another one? Roy's threads and the threads he hijacked became too tiresome for me too watch carefully.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    JohnLVT was already banned.
    And now so have you? Interesting. Do we now find out that 90% of the members are fake? I knew it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And now so have you? Interesting. Do we now find out that 90% of the members are fake? I knew it!
    Hope Eduardo wasn't perma-banned. I notice Collins isn't, despite being the 2nd biggest offender of the rule next to Fire11.
    Well, I got Rand started on his campaign (just search around here to see). I advised Thomas Massie before he ran for Congress. I am currently advising 2 liberty campaigns for the state legislature. I ran the war-room and won Minnesota for Ron Paul a few weeks back. There are other things I'm probably forgetting.
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  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Kluge View Post
    Hope Eduardo wasn't perma-banned. I notice Collins isn't, despite being the 2nd biggest offender of the rule next to Fire11.
    I'm onto you. You aren't real. You are a doctorate student's project in the field of A.I.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And now so have you? Interesting. Do we now find out that 90% of the members are fake? I knew it!
    It WOULD explain low vote totals.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

  15. #13
    Just go ahead and ban everyone but the mods, and then let them start banning each other until there is only one mod left. And then let that mod commit seppuku.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Supernaut View Post
    Just go ahead and ban everyone but the mods, and then let them start banning each other until there is only one mod left. And then let that mod commit seppuku.
    It's coming. The banocaust will happen one day.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    It's coming. The banocaust will happen one day.
    I lol'ed
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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  18. #16

    Thumbs down

    Hate to have to be the one to point out the obvious, but...

    banning sock puppet accounts on a libertarian message board is kind of hypocritical, no?

    I thought the libertarian motto is to punish behaviour which directly infringes on other's liberty...
    not to punish behaviour which we dislike or has the probability to be problematic.

    Its almost as bad as banning driving while on your cell phone.

    Besides... in the digital world of IP spoofing and persona management... how would you ever know?

    I have no problem with and kind of like sock puppets... some people learn (and some educate) more proficiently from reading a [spoofed] dialogue than they do reading a well cited single player argument.

    but yessa massa, me be keepin me socks on me feet,

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Hate to have to be the one to point out the obvious, but...

    banning sock puppet accounts on a libertarian message board is kind of hypocritical, no?

    I thought the libertarian motto is to punish behaviour which directly infringes on other's liberty...
    not to punish behaviour which we dislike or has the probability to be problematic.

    Its almost as bad as banning driving while on your cell phone.

    Besides... in the digital world if IP spoofing and persona management... how would you ever know?

    presence
    Property owners set the rules of conduct on their property. The owners of this forum are in line with libertarian thought to the extent that they recognize this. If someone came into your store and broke every reasonable and/or explicit rule, wouldn't you throw them out?
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Hate to have to be the one to point out the obvious, but...

    banning sock puppet accounts on a libertarian message board is kind of hypocritical, no?

    I thought the libertarian motto is to punish behaviour which directly infringes on other's liberty...
    not to punish behaviour which we dislike or has the probability to be problematic.

    Its almost as bad as banning driving while on your cell phone.

    Besides... in the digital world if IP spoofing and persona management... how would you ever know?

    presence
    I made the point that searching via the "new posts" function. It is helpful to have a second account for that. The forum times out, and if you don't read all the new posts (need to do something else, etc.), then a second account comes in handy.
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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    banning sock puppet accounts on a libertarian message board is kind of hypocritical, no?
    Not at all. Perhaps, if anything, it would be more likely to happen on a libertarian message board. I am not sure if this is a libertarian message board, though.
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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    It's coming. The banocaust will happen one day.
    Yep. Especially considering eduardo just got banned. This is getting stupid.
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Yep. Especially considering eduardo just got banned. This is getting stupid.
    he was posting with an obvious sockpuppet account last night.

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    he was posting with an obvious sockpuppet account last night.
    If I read that thread correctly, it sounded like he admitted it and said he'd stop once he was told it wasn't kosher.
    I may have missed something if he did something beyond that.
    Let's move forward to the Constitution.. I am the new GOP. I stand with Rand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    he was posting with an obvious sockpuppet account last night.
    Can you link me to that thread? Just curious and I want to see it.
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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Yep. Especially considering eduardo just got banned. This is getting stupid.
    It is an exercise in power. It is a demonstration on how power works. It doesn't take much power to be powerful. This is why taking over the GOP won't deliver freedom. The people in power will make sure of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernaut View Post
    Just go ahead and ban everyone but the mods, and then let them start banning each other until there is only one mod left. And then let that mod commit seppuku.
    I saw that movie, it wasn't as entertaining as it sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernaut View Post
    Just go ahead and ban everyone but the mods, and then let them start banning each other until there is only one mod left. And then let that mod commit seppuku.
    Thank you, Justinjj1.

    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ
    You can't know if someone has more than one account if they are using different IPs. It is impossible to enforce this rule for those that know how to use proxies or have more than one IP.
    We're quite aware. Those in question seem to not care that we know and even like to parade it around.

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  31. #27
    You can't know if someone has more than one account if they are using different IPs. It is impossible to enforce this rule for those that know how to use proxies or have more than one IP.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    You can't know if someone has more than one account if they are using different IPs. It is impossible to enforce this rule for those that know how to use proxies or have more than one IP.
    How do you think Fire11 is able to come back every other week or so?

  33. #29
    damn, and I was just starting to get some major rep on my alt account. oh well, its about damn time.

  34. #30
    i dont have a second account nor would i want one, but c'mon, there is absolutely no way to stop someone from creating a second account.
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