Hiroshima revisited: Dropping WMD on populated cities dishonorable way to win a war?

[oyarde]

Truly , what we need is less war , less invasions , more acceptance of others , regardless of how barbarian they may look to me , I am , Not THEM and it is not may place to interfere , I do not have to approve , or believe , I only have to do what , I really should do , take care of my own . I am willing to accept this , and others must be as well...

[John F Kennedy III]

New World Order wanted to show Stalin who was boss by demonstrating the weapons.

By dropping German nukes on Japan.

[John F Kennedy III]

To reply to the OP:

How do you spell fair? W-I-N

[CaptainAmerica]

Bombing of Dresden anyone? Our U.S. government claims that Dresden was a manufacturing city that had to be bombed....is this true? I doubt it was true since we were already winning the war before the carpet bombing of Dresden.

[BamaAla]

What? America and the Soviet Union were basically friends in World War II.

Not at that point. One of the ideas behind the bombing, other than the thought of saving lives, was to avoid sharing occupation zones of Japan with the Soviets. After Yalta and the partitioning of Berlin and the U.S.S.R. guarantee to enter the war against Japan, we wanted to end the war before Soviet involvement to avoid them from getting a foothold in Japan. They had already reneged on Poland at this point, and Truman was becoming adversarial with Stalin.

[AME3]

Neither agree nor disagree. It's unfair to apply standards to that decision with the advantage of hindsight. Leadership reasonably believed that an invasion of Japan would be necessary and that such an invasion would be a nasty, nasty affair for both sides. They also believed that the bomb would end the war with fewer casualties; they did what they did and ended the war.

Couldn't agree more. Well, said and represenative of the truth. Shame on those who dishonor our countrymen by siding with one of the greatest and most hideous enemies we ever faced, shame.

[John F Kennedy III]

Bombing of Dresden anyone? Our U.S. government claims that Dresden was a manufacturing city that had to be bombed....is this true? I doubt it was true since we were already winning the war before the carpet bombing of Dresden.

I'm not familiar with this, but it's a good rule of thumb to not believe anything our government says.

[idiom]

The nukes were nothing, the fire bombing of the major cities was the worst. Far more civilians burned to death from that than the nukes combined. The fire bombings were flat out war crimes.

[FrankRep]

Bombing of Dresden anyone? Our U.S. government claims that Dresden was a manufacturing city that had to be bombed....is this true? I doubt it was true since we were already winning the war before the carpet bombing of Dresden.

Dresden, Hiroshima, and Soviet Machinations

The anniversary of the Allied bombing of Dresden on February 13 and 14, 1945 has become an increasingly contentious memory for thousands of Germans. Historians have debated the military value of the old and crowded city, some saying it had little significance, with others pointing out that until the bombing it was still active with war production. What few doubt is that the war was already lost for Germany before the bombing of Dresden, and that the unconditional surrender demanded by President Roosevelt was inevitable in a few weeks no matter what.
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Even if bombing had been the only way to defeat the Nazis, the immolation of Dresden was disastrously ineffective (however, in no way diminishing the courage and nobility of American airmen who fought and died in large numbers for their country). Two years before Dresden, in “Operation Gomorrah,” British night bombers and American daylight bombers pounded Hamburg around the clock until fire services were overwhelmed, streets quite literally melted, and Germans of all ages were sucked by hundred-mile-an-hour winds into firestorms which killed in a few nights as many as would die in Dresden.

[anaconda]

Not at that point. One of the ideas behind the bombing, other than the thought of saving lives, was to avoid sharing occupation zones of Japan with the Soviets. After Yalta and the partitioning of Berlin and the U.S.S.R. guarantee to enter the war against Japan, we wanted to end the war before Soviet involvement to avoid them from getting a foothold in Japan. They had already reneged on Poland at this point, and Truman was becoming adversarial with Stalin.

I didn't know until recently that the Soviets had already invaded China by this time.