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Thread: The History of May Day (May 1) - Important Holiday For Communists and Socialists

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    This thread is anarchy.

    Why can't we all just celebrate this ancient holiday with sex and debauchery like always?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    If Karl Marx were alive today, I guarantee you, he would NOT be a communist anymore! In fact, he might have been a libertarian today considering his concerns by which he called for a communist revolution in the first place.. Libertarianism and Communism are quite similar in their goals. The difference being libertarianism achieves the same balance in society WITHOUT need of abolishing our freedoms!
    Technically a Karl Marx communism would have no government at all. Stalin and Lenin wanted a government which is the opposite of what Karl Marx advocates. I suggest you read the book, "The Kin of Ata Are Waiting For You" its really a mind blowing book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    This thread is anarchy.

    Why can't we all just celebrate this ancient holiday with sex and debauchery like always?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilluxe View Post
    Technically a Karl Marx communism would have no government at all. Stalin and Lenin wanted a government which is the opposite of what Karl Marx advocates. I suggest you read the book, "The Kin of Ata Are Waiting For You" its really a mind blowing book.
    LOL. I've read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and you're lying. The Government will take ALL the power and wealth ... and magically ... LOL the government will give it all back to the people....

    Yeah right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    LOL. I've read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and you're lying. The Government will take ALL the power and wealth ... and magically ... LOL the government will give it all back to the people....

    Yeah right!
    Tell me which section of the book says so, Karl Marx advocated absolutely no government. Basically de-evolutionize our system of hierarchy back to the homo erectus stage which is basically family or tribal mode. A lot political science professors said that Lenin and those type of communists are "Marxists wannabees". I would advise you to pay attention to world history class next time.
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    Someone posted a thread a couple of weeks ago (I looked for it but couldn't find it) - and they said something about a gun shop owner warning that he heard from some "high sources" that major shit was going to go down in America on May 1.

    We're here.


    Who posted that?

    Can't remember.

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    I love it when people who have never read anarchist philosophers say "anarchists are useful idiots for communists"...when anarcho communism is only one type of anarchism, along with anarcho capitalism, various other forms of market anarchism, and every other form of economic structure in explicitly voluntary modes of organization.

    Useful idiot was term used by communists to describe liberal statists in the West who rhetorically supported their positions up to certain point...not anarchists.

    In this way, if anyone is a useful idiot, it's small government statists who parrot anarchist ideals up to a certain point, thereby advancing our agenda without realizing it. That's the true spirit of what useful idiot meant.

    There is a huge difference between anarcho communism (ala Bakunin and Kropotkin) and state communism (ala Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.), between anarcho socialism (to include/disclude mutualism ala Proudhon, Tucker, Spooner, and Warren) and state socialism (ala European states, fascist states, etc.), and between anarchy (voluntary organization and polycentric legal order) and anomie (chaos, violence, rape, murder, normlessness - because of lawlessness OR too many laws, lack of social norms, fatalism, etc.).

    Anarchism is a code of ethics, an epistemology, aesthetics, logic, and metaphysical understanding...in short, a philosophy. Statism has never been, and will never be, a philosophy...it's an ideology. Philosophies contain ideologies, but ideologies lack one or more of the five criteria I just listed to being a philosophy. In the case of statism, it lacks logic in argumentation (demonstrated thousands of times in the philosophy forum) and consistent ethics (again, demonstrated in the forum). It chooses pragmatism and practicality above morality and logical solutions to the problems statists assert can only be cured via pragmatism and practical surrender to illegitmate coerced authority and hierarchy.

    Marx was one of these illogical statists. Putting aside for a moment a critique of his economic problems and his ethical flaws, we can see that he was completely illogical by advancing the idea that in order to achieve anarcho communis in society people needed to advance in the opposite direction toward total totalitarian statism first. I mean, if you can't see that's completely illogical, I feel sorry for you. He literally thought the way to anarcho (stateless) communism was through statist advance of socialism into statist dictatorial communism, and that magically the regime would just give up its power to the people and give birth to total anarchy.

    That's the craziest idea in history. To say we need more statism to achieve anarchy (as opposed to a smaller state), is like saying we need a smaller state and then anarchy to achieve totalitarian statism!

    Marx was largely an illogical and unethical economic cromagnon for this alone. He gave every great sociopath a wonderful ideology to follow as road map to the enslavement of his fellow man...all on the pretext of achieving maximum liberty (which of course logically can't happen in the way he described).

    Read more, insult anarchists less, is the lesson of the day.

    BTW, I celebrate May Day, not for the 8 hour work day, or for communism, or even for paganism...but because innocent men who shared my philosophy (even if not in economics or means to achieve a non-coercive society) were murdered by the state for a crime they didn't commit in a rigged trial. It should serve as a reminder to all anarchists; the state will murder us for any reason it wishes when it disagrees with our ideas. This is why revolution is BS, and evolution must occur. We'll be the first ones rounded up and shot, imprisoned, or deported if a violent revolution occurs...hence we must stand against it always. And some of the very people on these forums we call "allies" will be some of the ones advocating such a treatment for us...and some have said so directly.

    Small government statists make convenient allies until we reach a level of tyranny THEY are comfortable with...then we are their enemies. Always remember that, for your own sake. There are only 3 types of people in this world: those who are comfortable with the current level of tyranny, those who want more, and those who want less. This is why left and right don't exist...because if being on the "right" is being for less government, most everyone is one the "right" in a totalitarian state. If being on the "left" means wanting more government, then most everyone is on the "left" when anomie occurs (either from too little or too much law). Every statist seems to have their own idea about what is a comfortable level of tyranny...whereas the anarchist says any level of tyranny is too much.

    Happy May Day. Viva Anarchia.
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    Commies do not merit a Holiday , I do not acknowledge this Holiday.As a true capitalist and Geat American Patriot , I intend to cancel Lunch & break for my guys today

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Commies do not merit a Holiday , I do not acknowledge this Holiday.As a true capitalist and Geat American Patriot , I intend to cancel Lunch & break for my guys today
    What, you're not partaking in any pagan festivals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    What, you're not partaking in any pagan festivals?
    They will think nothing of it , do it fairly often in order not to work over, these are well conditioned , hardass employees

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