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    Child witnesses to Afghan massacre say Robert Bales was not alone

    By msnbc.com staff

    Here are two versions of what happened the night of March 11, when 17 Afghan villagers were shot to death.

    First, the Army version: Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, troubled by marriage woes, drunkenly left Camp Belambai, 12 miles from Kandahar, with a pistol and an automatic rifle and killed six people as they slept. Bales then returned to the base and left again for another village, this time killing 11. He acted alone and he admitted to the killings, according to the Army.

    Then there is the account that child witnesses provided Yalda Hakim, a journalist for SBS Dateline in Australia. Hakim, who was born in Afghanistan and immigrated to Australia as a child, is the first international journalist to interview the surviving witnesses. She said American investigators tried to prevent her from interviewing the children, saying her questions could traumatize them. She said she appealed to village leaders, who arranged for her to interview the witnesses.

    Watch the SBS Dateline video "US alerted over Bales behaviour"


    In the video, the children told Hakim that other Americans were present during the rampage, holding flashlights in the yard.

    Noorbinak, 8, told Hakim that the shooter first shot her father’s dog. Then, Noorbinak said in the video, he shot her father in the foot and dragged her mother by the hair. When her father started screaming, he shot her father, the child says. Then he turned the gun on Noorbinak and shot her in the leg.

    “One man entered the room and the others were standing in the yard, holding lights,” Noorbinak said in the video.

    A brother of one victim told Hakim that his brother’s children mentioned more than one soldier wearing a headlamp. They also had lights at the end of their guns, he said.

    “They don’t know whether there were 15 or 20, however many there were,” he said in the video.

    Army officials have repeatedly denied that others were involved in the massacre, emphasizing that Bales acted alone.

    Obama: Afghan shooting rampage was work of lone gunman


    Bales, who was flown to a maximum-security military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kan., was charged last week with 17 counts of murder and six attempts of attempted murder.

    Staff Sgt. Bales charged with 17 counts of murder in Afghanistan massacre

    The massacre came several days after a roadside bomb attack that cost one soldier his leg. Village residents told reporters and Afghan government officials that after the roadside bomb attack, U.S. troops lined up men from the village against a wall and told them they would pay a price. The Pentagon has denied those allegations.

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    Gen. Karimi, assigned by Afghan President Hamid Karzai to investigate the murders, told Hakim that he, too, wonders whether Bales acted alone and how he could left the base without notice.

    “Village elders said several soldiers took part and that there is boot prints in the area,” Karimi told Hakim. He said villagers told him that they saw three or four individuals kneeling and that helicopters were overhead during the rampage.

    “To search for him?” Karimi said he asked them.

    “No,” he said they told him. “They were there from the very beginning.”
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    Irrelevant. Trayvon!

    So, if there were more people involved the massacre must have had some kind of backwater official sanction... no? Bring our troops home, bring the murders among our troops home.
    Last edited by bolil; 04-02-2012 at 09:08 AM.

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    Damn...we suck
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    One for hope and one for peace
    Watching government lies
    Leak into your empty eyes
    From the TV and winners history

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    Damn...we suck

    No 'we' don't. They suck!
    "Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling

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    "To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."


    "People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters. "

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    Bump
    "Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling

    "Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico

    "To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."


    "People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters. "

    "Every time someone makes fun of the idea of “conspiracy theories” they are exhibiting a conditioned response – like salivating when they hear a bell or believing a TV news program." ~ Craig McKee

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    Its been clear from day 1 this has been a cover up. All the evidence supports it and the Armys attempts to stop journalists interviewing witnesses just confirms it. Will the MSM give it the attention it deserves? Probably not. But il be emailing CNN anyway until I get a response.

    (edit) CNN are running it already.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/30/wo...stan-massacre/

    And a very good article below regarding how Obama is complicit in the cover up and by obstructing justice, impeachable.

    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/...7-and-the-ob-1
    Last edited by Noblegeorge; 04-03-2012 at 03:38 AM.

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    Seems to me that pinned it alll on sgt. Bales because his history even before the military was criminal. It will ber interesting how they issue punishment for him in balance with protecting the rest of the soldiers & officers involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Seems to me that pinned it alll on sgt. Bales because his history even before the military was criminal. It will ber interesting how they issue punishment for him in balance with protecting the rest of the soldiers & officers involved.
    I am more inclined to think there were mercenaries involved with this too--not just some lone soldier going off the reservation per se.
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    There is a breaking development in latest Afghan massacre investigation. NATO officers are still denying Afghan claims that multiple killers were involved in massacre of civilians including 9 children and women in different villages but now suggest that Sgt Bales did the first killings, came back to base and then went out to another village and did second massacre.


    Officials: Bales may have carried out separate Afghan killings





    By Associated Press, AP
    WASHINGTON — U.S. investigators believe the U.S. soldier accused of killing 17 Afghan civilians split the slaughter into two episodes, returning to his base after the first attack and later slipping away to kill again, two American officials said Saturday.

    This scenario seems to support the U.S. government’s assertion — contested by some Afghans — that the killings were done by one person
    , since they would have been perpetrated over a longer period of time than assumed when Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales was detained March 11 outside his base in southern Afghanistan.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...HYS_story.html

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