Christian immigration out of Israel and Jewish immigration into Israel increased, why?

[eduardo89]

Here's the problem. You can become Jewish through conversion. So a woman who becomes Jewish by conversion has a child who becomes and atheist. And that child is Jewish because.....?

He's Jewish under Jewish law. I never said it makes sense

[jmdrake]

Except the Scriptures are very clear. And Zionism is a 19th century invention which, sadly, many American Christians have been fooled into believing is prophesy.

+rep

He's Jewish under Jewish law. I never said it makes sense

I made my post about a non genetically "Jewish" atheist before I read where you had repudiated Christian Zionism. I think we're on the same page. Yes technically Zionists would consider such a person to be "Jewish" even though such a person fit St. John's definition of an "antichrist". And I believe this is the fulfilment of the prophecy of the "synagogue of Satan". Even in the old testament when Jews left the teaching of God, He sent them into captivity. But Christian Zionists would have people believe that the act of a non believing Jew (not even believing in Yaweh, let alone Jesus) returning to Israel is somehow "holy"? Really? What a mockery that makes of God! He sends the nation into Babylonian captivity because of Baal worship, yet He accepts atheists as part of His "special people"?

[TheLibertarianNationalist]

I don't think Christians realize how heavily Jews will persecute Christians. Just google search stories of Jews that converted to Christianity. All of them are full of hate-filled stories. Usually teen Jews that convert are kicked out of their homes and disowned by their family, possibly for decades. And in Israel, Orthodox Jews stand outside of Messianic Jewish communities and throw rocks at them. Sometimes trying to kill them:

[eduardo89]

I made my post about a non genetically "Jewish" atheist before I read where you had repudiated Christian Zionism. I think we're on the same page. Yes technically Zionists would consider such a person to be "Jewish" even though such a person fit St. John's definition of an "antichrist". And I believe this is the fulfilment of the prophecy of the "synagogue of Satan". Even in the old testament when Jews left the teaching of God, He sent them into captivity. But Christian Zionists would have people believe that the act of a non believing Jew (not even believing in Yaweh, let alone Jesus) returning to Israel is somehow "holy"? Really? What a mockery that makes of God! He sends the nation into Babylonian captivity because of Baal worship, yet He accepts atheists as part of His "special people"?

But the Jews have their own covenant with God!

Oh wait...

31 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the LORD.
“I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the LORD.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”

[wannaberocker]

Except the Scriptures are very clear. And Zionism is a 19th century invention which, sadly, many American Christians have been fooled into believing is prophesy.

That is a matter of Debate. I have never been someone who jumps into the realm of "Prophesy" and says well "XYZ is the only Truth prophesy". You interperet the prophesy one way and i interperet it a diff way.

God's mission for Israel to the world is summed up in the person and ministry of Jesus Christ who "fulfilled" God's purposes for Israel by creating out of two peoples - Jews and Gentiles - one people whose Promised Land is no longer a piece of real estate in the Middle East, but a New Heaven and New Earth which will come into existence when He comes again at the end of time.

And while i can agree with that notion. I can also on occations agree with Israel's actions on a human level.

BTW we can talk about this more in PM also if ya like. THat way no one else will butt into our conv and in a way 1on 1 discussions often provide more clarity.

[moderate libertarian]

I don't think Christians realize how heavily Jews will persecute Christians. Just google search stories of Jews that converted to Christianity. All of them are full of hate-filled stories. Usually teen Jews that convert are kicked out of their homes and disowned by their family, possibly for decades. And in Israel, Orthodox Jews stand outside of Messianic Jewish communities and throw rocks at them. Sometimes trying to kill them:

Can this be used to convince Congress members to end all aid to Israel and foreign dictators immediately? It's gaining attention lately even though still not highlighted in doosh controlled MSM.





http://israelprayer.com/articles/Expose%20PT%201.html

[SeanSerritella]

There's no such thing as a Jewish gene. If there was, does that mean that Ethiopian Jews and Polish Jews have the same DNA?

Also, if you look at all the ethnicities from the middle east and where the middle east is located, most people have dark skin. All along the equator, people have dark skin. How the heck did white Jews come from the middle east? It's an impossibility. It goes against science.

[moderate libertarian]

I don't think religion of any God would or should be concerned about genes/dna. I certainly would not support it.
Our foreign policy should also be cleansed of such considerations if there are any.

[Perry]

Christians feel safer in other parts of the world. Jews feel safest in Israel.

There are many "Christian" nations. There is only one Jewish nation.

[moderate libertarian]

Christians feel safer in other parts of the world. Jews feel safest in Israel.
There are many "Christian" nations. There is only one Jewish nation.

Are you saying Jews living in Brooklyn, London or Paris feel less safe than Jews living in a settlement in West Bank or even Tel Aviv?

On the surface, that seems to defy logic.