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    Default Christian immigration out of Israel and Jewish immigration into Israel increased, why?

    In past decades, despite US giving Israeli regimes steady aid in billions every year, a startling demographic trend has emerged. Native Christian arab immigration out of Israel has increased while at the same time Jewish immigration into Israel from froeign countries increased. Can anyone explain why that happened? Considering that holy land is birth place of Christianity, one would think native Christian population would prefer ro live there.

    Only explnataion I had heard before was that since Israel created Hamas and started supporting radicalism and Islamic extremist groups, life became harder for native Christians and they left to find better life outside Israel. But even if that simplistic reason is accepted, why that affected Christian arab and Jewish populations in opposite ways?



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    Ok, so you're saying God's hand is working mysteriously?

    I was hoping there would be another non-scripture explanation for these two diverging trends. Besides, is it prophesied anywhere that native Christains of arab race would have to leave?

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    Because the Christian Arabs are treated as second class citizens (if they are lucky enough to get Israeli citizenship) or as terrorists (if they do not have citizenship and live in the occupied territories).

    Israel is a racist, apartheid regime. If you're a Jew you're treated well and there is a lot of financial incentive for Jews from many countries to move there. If you're not Jewish you are discriminated against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate libertarian View Post
    Ok, so you're saying God's hand is working mysteriously?

    I was hoping there would be another non-scripture explanation for these two diverging trends. Besides, is it prophesied anywhere that native Christains of arab race would have to leave?
    Yeah, I am saying God's hand is working.

    I don't agree with much that Israel's government does, but I understand that they are in a tough spot and I support them.

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    Ok that is believable explanation eduardo, thank you.

    Btw, is that notorious hanity in your avatar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Yeah, I am saying God's hand is working.

    I don't agree with much that Israel's government does, but I understand that they are in a tough spot and I support them.
    Ok, that's under thing I finf perplexing. Why would Israel founders think that moving Jewish natives from Charistian nations like France, Austria into muslim arab neighborhood would safer? Even if both arab and jews are semites, there has been historic ensions between them too.

    This was so called founding father of Israel:

    Theodor Herzl
    Herzl first encountered the anti-Semitism that would shape his life and the fate of
    the ... Herzl witnessed mobs shouting “Death to the Jews” in France, the home of
    the ... He envisioned a new society that was to rise in the Land of Israel
    on a ...
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...phy/Herzl.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate libertarian View Post
    Ok that is believable explanation eduardo, thank you.

    Btw, is that notorious hanity in your avatar?
    Yes, it's conservative hero Sean Hannity. I'm just preparing for this place to become RandPaulForums and I know Sean is a huge Rand fan.

    Israel offers lots of incentives for Jews to immigrate there. They're very afraid that Palestinians will out populate Jews in the coming decades. The Palestinian birth rate is much higher than the Jewish birth rate, except for ultra-orthodox Jews who have a birth rate as high (or higher) than the Arabs.

    If you search, you'll see that Israel offers incentives in the tens of thousands trying to get Iranian Jews to immigrate there. Also the fact that you can get Israeli citizenship automatically by proving Jewish blood makes it easy for Jews to immigrate. Not to mention that they opened up and accepted hundreds of thousands of Soviet Jews in the late 80s and 90s.

    Life is quite good for you if you're Jewish in Israel. If you're an Arab, Muslim or Christian, life is hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate libertarian View Post
    Ok, that's under thing I finf perplexing. Why would Israel founders think that moving Jewish natives from Charistian nations like France, Austria into muslim arab neighborhood would safer? Even if both arab and jews are semites, there has been historic ensions between them too.

    This was so called founding father of Israel:
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...phy/Herzl.html
    Because they can claim its their land and fool naive Christians into believing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate libertarian View Post
    Ok, that's under thing I finf perplexing. Why would Israel founders think that moving Jewish natives from Charistian nations like France, Austria into muslim arab neighborhood would safer? Even if both arab and jews are semites, there has been historic ensions between them too.
    Saying they are both "Semites" doesn't really mean much. Indians, Frenchmen, and Englishmen are all Indo-Europeans but that doesn't mean they would all get along under one government. Both of those terms are just linguistic terms, nothing else. But it is true Hebrews are closely related to other Levantines such as Lebanese, Palestinians, and Assyrians more than anything. And Ashkenazis are about 40% European.

    But anyways, I'm not sure why they thought it would be safer or better for them but I'm glad they left. All they do is complain about Christian civilization anyways so they mine as well enjoy being an Arab-Muslim majority nation in the next 50 years. If you don't know what I'm referring to, Orthodox Jews (the crazy, radical ones who shout at secular Jews, Christians, and Muslims in the street and throw rocks at Messianic Jews) and Arabs are pretty much the only people breeding in Israel. And if history tells us anything, apartheid never works in the long run. So expect their persecution of Palestinians to eventually fail. Israel's future looks dim.

    And I would argue it isn't any fulfillment of a biblical prophecy. There was an actual Jewish state in Israel around 100 A.D. So if the Bible predicts Jews retake the Holy Land, then I guess it occurred twice?
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