**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[kylejack]

How do you know racism precipitated the incident?

Because Zimmerman said "$#@!ing coons" on the 911 call just a few minutes before gunning down a kid with Skittles and iced tea.

[azxd]

Yeah, the agenda is that racism is a vile, disgusting thing, especially so when institutionalized. It's an agenda I support 100%.

If you want marches about economic injustice and banksters stealing all our money, there's a really big one I can refer you to called Occupy.

Occupy is for $#@!s who just want to gripe about their personal problems, and lay blame upon others for their misfortunes.

[AuH20]

Because Zimmerman said "$#@!ing coons" on the 911 call just a few minutes before gunning down a kid with Skittles and iced tea.

That's still up for interpretation. $#@!ing punks or $#@!ing coons has not been confirmed.

[MelissaWV]

Because Zimmerman said "$#@!ing coons" on the 911 call just a few minutes before gunning down a kid with Skittles and iced tea.

Actually it's also been alleged, after some analysis, that he said "$#@!ing punk(s)."

[kylejack]

Sounds like coons to me, but regardless, Zimmerman made 46 calls to police since January 2011, often reporting "suspicious black males", once a kid who was "7 to 9 years old." I've called the police like twice in my entire life.

[azxd]

Actually it's also been alleged, after some analysis, that he said "$#@!ing punk(s)."

YES, kill white kids on dope ... Or we could blame the band that made the prhase popular.

Allegations are like............................................ Sorry the forum says I can't give you any more REP right now.

[Zatch]

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...-a-drug-dealer

[kylejack]

Occupy is for $#@!s who just want to gripe about their personal problems, and lay blame upon others for their misfortunes.

Their most common chant is "banks got bailed out, we got sold out." Who disagrees with that? Occupy is many things, but the poster seemed to be complaining that there wasn't media coverage or marches about the fleecing banksters have done...there have been plenty of both, including extensive media coverage of Corzine.

[azxd]

Sounds like coons to me, but regardless, Zimmerman made 46 calls to police since January 2011, often reporting "suspicious black males", once a kid who was "7 to 9 years old."

Source doesn't matter, but ... It does add to the drama of an intentionally misguided nation.

[azxd]

Their most common chant is "banks got bailed out, we got sold out." Who disagrees with that? Occupy is many things, but the poster seemed to be complaining that there wasn't media coverage or marches about the fleecing banksters have done...there have been plenty of both, including extensive media coverage of Corzine.

We can focus on trivial BS, or stuff that matters ... Time to make some decisions

P.S. I like these threads ... They remove the mind from what ails the nation.

[AuH20]

Their most common chant is "banks got bailed out, we got sold out." Who disagrees with that? Occupy is many things, but the poster seemed to be complaining that there wasn't media coverage or marches about the fleecing banksters have done...there have been plenty of both, including extensive media coverage of Corzine.

Haven't seen any anti-Jon Corzine marches of late or celebrities specifically asking him to be "brought to justice." It seems that this story has been artificially pushed to the forefront to create a greater divide. Like I said, it's tragic but doesn't deserve the incredible scrutiny it's been getting.

[Noob]

Because Zimmerman said "$#@!ing coons" on the 911 call just a few minutes before gunning down a kid with Skittles and iced tea.

Here is the transcript of the 911 call.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...zimmerman.html

[William R]

bump

[AuH20]

Anyone else notice the way the media has dressed up the entire narrative?



See that isn't a current picture of Trayvon but rather this is:



But obviously that photo doesn't generate the same sympathy as the one at the top. The media is rotten to the core and that's not to say that Zimmerman may have not committed a serious crime. But it's interesting to see how they craft a narrative which suits the agenda they are pushing.

[Bruno]

Wow, that was worth the read. I had no idea of the size difference between the two, nor any of the other details that paint a far different picture.

[BlackTerrel]

Wow he was suspended from school. And when you click on the link it shows that he also.... had a tattoooo... oh the horror

Clearly this is relevant as to why he was unarmed and shot dead in cold blood.

[kylejack]

Here is the transcript of the 911 call.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...zimmerman.html

Right, and I know what it sounds like to me. Regardless, Zimmerman has a history of calling the police about suspicious black males, none of who seem to have been arrested.

[MelissaWV]

Wow, that was worth the read. I had no idea of the size difference between the two, nor any of the other details that paint a far different picture.

You had no idea Zimmerman had 110 pounds on Martin? And an SUV and a gun? Martin was taller.

I doubt his alleged pot use, gold teeth, or (gasp!) tattoo gave him much of an advantage.

The only even mildly relevant thing would be the assault on a bus driver, if it ever happened, but so far the "evidence" of that seems to be one tweet. I won't get into what people tweet about one another.

Instead of that, we are seeing long suspensions from school, tattoos, racially-charged epitaphs, and violence.

Add to the list of things you should not do: get gold teeth, get suspended (I was suspended for a "weapons charge" when I was in school), get inked, and have idiotic friends who talk about you being violent against someone (no proof yet, though, just like Zimmerman's "prior bad acts" that are just rumor and innuendo).

Did Zimmerman have any ink!?!?!? It seems he wore an earring!

People are really grasping at straws

[AuH20]

Wow, that was worth the read. I had no idea of the size difference between the two, nor any of the other details that paint a far different picture.

Exactly. And he supposedly swung at a bus driver a few days before. This wasn't the meek Steve Urkel type the media has been pushing. Look, I hope the justice system gets this right, whatever decision it arrives at.

[bluesc]

I guess I'm the only one who really doesn't give a $#@! about this case.

[TheTexan]

I honestly don't know who was right or wrong here. What I do know, is that this story is very divisive, and after the two groups get done tearing each other apart, nothing good will have come of it. Then we just wait for the next divisive story and repeat this cycle, ad infinitum.

Pass. I want no part in this.

[Anti Federalist]

The last line of the article:

This is a textbook self-defense case, and I’d urge anyone reading to look at the full set of facts before drawing conclusions.

No it is not, based on the facts so far presented.

Self defense with deadly force is not justified, legally, if you provoke or prolong or instigate an altercation that otherwise would not have happened had you not done so.

"Stand your ground" laws do not change that.

[Zatch]

[TruthisTreason]

Wow he was suspended from school. And when you click on the link it shows that he also.... had a tattoooo... oh the horror

Clearly this is relevant as to why he was unarmed and shot dead in cold blood.

Exactly! And OMG he had a screen name that wasn't politically correct, oh dear God, the horror!

[BlackTerrel]

As others have pointed out, this story does strike a chord with a lot of people.

It's not a conspiracy or coincidence. It's how the news gets reported. At any given moment, there are "big stories" available that fill just about any category. People are talking about how big stars must have been part of the conspiracy. Nope. They were part of the reaction. The reaction is coming now, and not when this actually happened, just like the Kony video didn't pop up when the child armies were even en vogue.

So why did the media decide to play this particular story to death right now?

That's not begging for a conspiracy. That's just critical thinking.

Look up the term "brutal slaying" sometime. There are seriously lots and lots of local stories that could be blown up to a national level. Why the media picks one, and not another, is actually a "science" of sorts.

We live in the age of internet and social media. This story would have blown up regardless and it would have had people questioning why the media wasn't touching it. This was popping up on my facebook and on my mom's Church email list before I heard about it in the media and local people were reaching out to media and celebs to get it more coverage.

The fact is this is a case where more coverage will be a good thing. If not for the coverage Zimmerman would have gotten away 100% free. I am glad it is being covered so MAYBE justice will be served.

[BlackTerrel]

Yeah, the agenda is that racism is a vile, disgusting thing, especially so when institutionalized. It's an agenda I support 100%.

If you want marches about economic injustice and banksters stealing all our money, there's a really big one I can refer you to called Occupy.

This and +rep

[RonPaulMall]

The last line of the article:



No it is not, based on the facts so far presented.

Self defense with deadly force is not justified, legally, if you provoke or prolong or instigate an altercation that otherwise would not have happened had you not done so.

"Stand your ground" laws do not change that.

Actually, from the facts presented thus far, it is absolutely a textbook case of self defense. In what crazy world is going outside to ask a suspicious lurker who he is and what he's doing constitute "instigating an altercation"? This is a free country. You, I, or George Zimmerman have every right to follow a stranger in public, and when we catch up to them and get their attention, ask them any question we so desire. And likewise, the person we are talking to has every right to tell us to "$#@! off", and walk away. What they don't have the right to do is physically assault us. And that is what Trayvon Martin is accused of doing, and why according to the SYG law this was a justifiable homicide.

[anewvoice]

^This

[Sam I am]

The point is that Trayvon isn't quite as affable as he's been portrayed, which matters somewhat because it does paint a picture of someone, who might be quick to get into a fistfight.

The points raised in the article, however are extremely weak, and even if Trayvon did throw the first punch, that's not good enough for a self defense case.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Anyone else notice the way the media has dressed up the entire narrative?



See that isn't a current picture of Trayvon but rather this is:



But obviously that photo doesn't generate the same sympathy as the one at the top. The media is rotten to the core and that's not to say that Zimmerman may have not committed a serious crime. But it's interesting to see how they craft a narrative which suits the agenda they are pushing.

Also, Zimmerman is already in an orange jumpsuit. And honestly, Martin doesn't look that scary to me in the bottom pic either.

That act of heinous theft and manipulation upon thousands of investors far exceeds anything Zimmerman did

I'd say you're off the mark there. Both are important, but we don't really know what Zimmerman did. Seem to be a lot of people jumping the gun.

And a Rodney King video wouldn't even make the news these days. Police violence ain't just for the ghetto anymore.