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    Exclamation Trayvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    This'll get your older-RPFer conspiracy radar going.

    I was having a discussion with someone about this last night, bringing them up to speed on the case. Here comes what's likely a long, hot summer. There's a big political race. People are already pissed about the economy and other crap (but in misguided ways). People get killed and maimed regularly.

    But where did this kid get killed?

    Less than two hours from Tampa where the GOP Convention is going to be

    mmkay proceed.
    That was posted in the main thread on the subject.

    I've got an even better conspiracy.

    The Martin shooting has been bubbling in the background for a month now.

    But it just blew up now.

    Sure took that story of the Afghan village slaughter off the front page, didn't it now?
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    Yes. Yes, it did.

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    Oh look, the coincidence theorist are at it again.

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    Interesting Facts

    I have spent the last few hours mapping out the times and events that happened that day using Google Maps. Looking at the record and the times that things were alleged to have happened, there is no way that the media portrayal of this incident is correct.

    I suggest you do as I did and mark off where and when each event took place and then think about the timing of the calls. All of this info is widely available.

    Here are some interesting facts:
    - Trayvon ran away from Zimmerman and was lost to Zimmerman's view for 5 whole minutes. Trayvon's father's condo was only 100 yards away, why didn't he go and stay there?
    - Trayvon's girlfriend talked to him for 4 minutes AFTER Zimmerman had already lost sight of Trayvon.
    - How did the heavyset Zimmerman ever catch up to the athletic Trayvon? Especially since Trayvon had a 5 minute head start (Zimmerman lost Trayvon for 5 minutes)
    - What does Trayvon's stepbrother say about that night? He was at the condo and the two kids were supposed to watch the All Star game together. Did he hear the gun shot?
    - If Trayvon ran from Zimmerman for 5 minutes, how did he not cover the 100 yards to his house, and how did he end up only about 30 yards from where he ran past Zimmerman in the first place?

    I personally think Trayvon ran away and then came back. I cannot otherwise explain the fact that he did not run straight home, 100 yards away.

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    I like how this country randomly chooses an incident to get mad about, but doesn't care about the rest.

    Or is it random???? Discuss.
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    It took the Jena 6 debacle five months to blowup. It's all about timing.
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    You want this thread:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-watch-captain


    Quote Originally Posted by anoNY View Post
    I have spent the last few hours mapping out the times and events that happened that day using Google Maps. Looking at the record and the times that things were alleged to have happened, there is no way that the media portrayal of this incident is correct.

    I suggest you do as I did and mark off where and when each event took place and then think about the timing of the calls. All of this info is widely available.

    Here are some interesting facts:
    - Trayvon ran away from Zimmerman and was lost to Zimmerman's view for 5 whole minutes. Trayvon's father's condo was only 100 yards away, why didn't he go and stay there?
    - Trayvon's girlfriend talked to him for 4 minutes AFTER Zimmerman had already lost sight of Trayvon.
    - How did the heavyset Zimmerman ever catch up to the athletic Trayvon? Especially since Trayvon had a 5 minute head start (Zimmerman lost Trayvon for 5 minutes)
    - What does Trayvon's stepbrother say about that night? He was at the condo and the two kids were supposed to watch the All Star game together. Did he hear the gun shot?
    - If Trayvon ran from Zimmerman for 5 minutes, how did he not cover the 100 yards to his house, and how did he end up only about 30 yards from where he ran past Zimmerman in the first place?

    I personally think Trayvon ran away and then came back. I cannot otherwise explain the fact that he did not run straight home, 100 yards away.

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    Zimmerman had a car.

    100 yards away from my house is another house, but I'd have to travel about a mile to actually get there. If I were running away and needed to call someone, I'd run out of sight, take a turn, then make the call. I would be unlikely to get to the other house (or my house from that house) in a few minutes without cutting through yards and jumping fences.

    * * *

    These things are not uncommon, so you have to ask why THIS story. It's not a conspiracy. It's tracing back the steps that the media itself took in deciding what sells and what to push.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaAla View Post
    It's all about timing.
    Precisely my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    I like how this country randomly chooses an incident to get mad about, but doesn't care about the rest.

    Or is it random???? Discuss.
    i agree . this $#@! happens every day . why this 1 ? because it divides people that normally agree , gust look at the discussion about it on this site .
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    The globalist owned media will use anything as a political distraction to divert attention away from the real issues and their agendas.

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    Racial Politics. A perfect red herring campaign issue. Also goes nicely with the people who have an irrational fear of guns (except in the hands of soldiers and law enforcement, who are professionally trained to "accidentally" kill innocent people.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That was posted in the main thread on the subject.

    I've got an even better conspiracy.

    The Martin shooting has been bubbling in the background for a month now.

    But it just blew up now.

    Sure took that story of the Afghan village slaughter off the front page, didn't it now?
    Is there a time that it could have become big where it wouldn't be "suspicious timing"? There is ALWAYS ten other things going on.

    Somethings like Kony blow up really fast and then disappear just as fast. Other things the momentum takes a little longer.

    There is no way the media could have ignored this story much longer when there were over a million people signing petitions with NBA athletes and Hollywood stars and the blogosphere and Church email lists and blogosphere all abuzz over this.

    Maybe LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, my mom's Church email list and the more than a million people who signed the petition are involved in the conspiracy.

    Or maybe this is a case that resonates with a lot of people.

    As far as the Afghan village slaughter - everyone agrees that is completely $#@!ed and the guy should be tried for murder. There is not much debate.

    This case is different in that the perpetrator is free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackTerrel View Post
    Is there a time that it could have become big where it wouldn't be "suspicious timing"? There is ALWAYS ten other things going on.

    Somethings like Kony blow up really fast and then disappear just as fast. Other things the momentum takes a little longer.

    There is no way the media could have ignored this story much longer when there were over a million people signing petitions with NBA athletes and Hollywood stars and the blogosphere and Church email lists and blogosphere all abuzz over this.

    Maybe LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, my mom's Church email list and the more than a million people who signed the petition are involved in the conspiracy.

    Or maybe this is a case that resonates with a lot of people.

    As far as the Afghan village slaughter - everyone agrees that is completely $#@!ed and the guy should be tried for murder. There is not much debate.

    This case is different in that the perpetrator is free.

    I tend to agree with Terrel here, I don't see a conspiracy here at all and I will say that I am definitely one to entertain conspiracies when they come up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Racial Politics. A perfect red herring campaign issue. Also goes nicely with the people who have an irrational fear of guns (except in the hands of soldiers and law enforcement, who are professionally trained to "accidentally" kill innocent people.)
    I wish people would get this upset when cops kill innocent unarmed people. Whether Martin was that or not, I don't know. But you don't have to look long to find much of that from law enforcement where the cases against the officers are obvious. And we hear crickets.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    I don't even understand why this story has blown up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Free Beer View Post
    I don't even understand why this story has blown up...
    nvm
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    Authoritarian leftists. Political prisoners. Gulags. Where are we again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Free Beer View Post
    I don't even understand why this story has blown up...
    Let me see if I can help you. Most people I know agree that this sort of America is $#@!ed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Racial Politics. A perfect red herring campaign issue. Also goes nicely with the people who have an irrational fear of guns (except in the hands of soldiers and law enforcement, who are professionally trained to "accidentally" kill innocent people.)

    Indeed, since this as not been in the national news.

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ire-tv-station

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulfollower999 View Post
    Oh look, the coincidence theorist are at it again.

    The place is full of them ... Always looking for an excuse.
    Let them keep thinking Ron Paul supporters are just a little army. Every military strategy manual in the world has examples of the bad things that happen to arrogant commanders of massive armies that underestimate the enemy. They all lose. We will win because the human heart, despite its detractors, is meant for truth and freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azxd View Post
    The place is full of them ... Always looking for an excuse.
    As others have pointed out, this story does strike a chord with a lot of people.

    It's not a conspiracy or coincidence. It's how the news gets reported. At any given moment, there are "big stories" available that fill just about any category. People are talking about how big stars must have been part of the conspiracy. Nope. They were part of the reaction. The reaction is coming now, and not when this actually happened, just like the Kony video didn't pop up when the child armies were even en vogue.

    So why did the media decide to play this particular story to death right now?

    That's not begging for a conspiracy. That's just critical thinking.

    Look up the term "brutal slaying" sometime. There are seriously lots and lots of local stories that could be blown up to a national level. Why the media picks one, and not another, is actually a "science" of sorts.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    A Baltimore prosecutor offered jurors in a murder trial a painful and troubling portrait Wednesday of the victim's final moments, describing how a killer "suffocated and butchered" the boy, whose screams for help she said went unheard by a relative who had passed out from heroin.

    Assistant State's Attorney Jennifer Hastings held up two oversized pictures of 15-year-old Jason Mattison Jr., pointed to the suspect sitting just feet from the Circuit Court jury and said the victim "met with a nightmare, and that nightmare is Dante Parrish."

    Parrish is a convicted murderer whose sentenced was reduced with the help of the Innocence Project.

    ...

    Jason had been a standout at West Baltimore's Vivian T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy, a school oriented toward students wanting to become doctors, nurses and paramedics. Lauded as talkative, bright and friendly, the lanky teen made no secret that he was gay, displaying a witty attitude and quirky dress.

    He felt at home at school, where 80 percent of the 425 students were female, often arriving before the first bell and staying long after the day had ended to do homework. People, including his family, were less accepting of his sexual identity, and the prosecutor said he was not welcome in his grandmother's or mother's homes.

    "He went from place to place to keep a roof over his head," Hastings said in court. He felt welcome at the house owned by his great-aunt on Llewellyn Avenue, but the prosecutor said there was little adult supervision, many occupants spent the days shooting heroin, drinking and playing cards, and keeping the front door open to random visitors.

    Now THAT is a terrible story.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    As others have pointed out, this story does strike a chord with a lot of people.

    It's not a conspiracy or coincidence. It's how the news gets reported. At any given moment, there are "big stories" available that fill just about any category. People are talking about how big stars must have been part of the conspiracy. Nope. They were part of the reaction. The reaction is coming now, and not when this actually happened, just like the Kony video didn't pop up when the child armies were even en vogue.

    So why did the media decide to play this particular story to death right now?

    That's not begging for a conspiracy. That's just critical thinking.

    Look up the term "brutal slaying" sometime. There are seriously lots and lots of local stories that could be blown up to a national level. Why the media picks one, and not another, is actually a "science" of sorts.
    Yea, it's called bull$#@! stories, and this thread along with the other threads about this story prove that the MSM is doing a great job at distracting the public from the things that matter.

    I have little hope for this nation, and only hope I am not seriously F'd with before I depart this place.
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    Will Smith and all other sanctimonious black celebrities need to wake up from their ethnic induced slumber. Jon Corzine essentially steals 1.5 billion dollars and then proceeds to commit perjury during a congressional inquiry, and he's walking around free. That act of heinous theft and manipulation upon thousands of investors far exceeds anything Zimmerman did, but I don't hear any cries for justice. I can't understand how the sheep in this country are so low brow, myopic and ignorant.
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    Of course. If you think the death of one person is important, then you must automatically not give a $#@! about the trouble the nation is in.

    What sound logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    Of course. If you think the death of one person is important, then you must automatically not give a $#@! about the trouble the nation is in.

    What sound logic.
    Look at the intensity of the media coverage. The marches. I'm pretty sure there is an agenda being pushed. And it's disgusting. No peep about Corzine or Fast and furious? Meanwhile, a black kid gets shot and it's as big as the OJ trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Look at the intensity of the media coverage. The marches. I'm pretty sure there is an agenda being pushed. And it's disgusting. No peep about Corzine or Fast and furious? Meanwhile, black kid gets shot and it's as big as the OJ trial.
    Yeah, the agenda is that racism is a vile, disgusting thing, especially so when institutionalized. It's an agenda I support 100%.

    If you want marches about economic injustice and banksters stealing all our money, there's a really big one I can refer you to called Occupy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    Of course. If you think the death of one person is important, then you must automatically not give a $#@! about the trouble the nation is in.

    What sound logic.
    BINGO and + REP to you !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kylejack View Post
    Yeah, the agenda is that racism is a vile, disgusting thing, especially so when institutionalized. It's an agenda I support 100%.
    How do you know racism precipitated the incident?

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