Could Toulouse be Islam's new martyr?

[DerailingDaTrain]

Because all the societies that abandoned religion have had so much success.

lol got me there but I'm not saying we should have a society like under Stalin. You need morals.

[specsaregood]

If you can make sure every Christian, Muslim, and Jew in the world follows only the good parts of their respective religions then I'll say religion is good but that isn't going to happen so we will continue to have Jews, Christians, and Muslims killing each other because they can't get over their differences.

I don't see what that has to do with religion. people gonna hate, regardless.

It's fine to believe in God but the rest of it isn't needed. Society already has a moral code so we don't need the Bible for that.

Which society would that be? And the moral code was based on what?

[DerailingDaTrain]

Clearly not based on Christianity. If it was no state would allow homosexuals to marry.

People know it's bad to steal, murder, cheat, lie, etc. nobody needs the Bible or a priest to tell you that. I'm not religious and I don't behave in an immoral way. My parents never went to church and I didn't turn out horrible. In fact I turned out better than most of the kids I knew who went to church because they grew up so repressed they acted out as soon as they were out of their parents sight.

[James Madison]

lol got me there but I'm not saying we should have a society like under Stalin. You need morals.

Whether religion is based on facts or fantasies, people have certain deistic tendencies that are the result of our development as a species. If they don't worship God, they will worship the State as their God. Might as well have have something that occasionally does good things (religion) than an entity that only knows how to destroy (government).

[moderate libertarian]

Highly doubt it, these are much more likely to be "martyrs" of radical Islamists:


BBC News - Gaza: Children die in Israeli attack, say doctors
Mar 23, 2011 ... Two Israeli military strikes on Gaza have killed eight Palestinians,..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12822493

Afghanistan massacre suspect Sgt. Robert Bales to be charged with murder ...
Washington Post - ‎4 hours ago‎

The 38-year-old soldier and father of two, who lives in Lake Tapps, Wash., will be charged with a shooting rampage in two villages near his southern Afghanistan military post in the early hours of March 11, killing nine Afghan children and eight adults ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...TUS_story.html

[oyarde]

You are correct sir, I have corrected my error.

I dunno , 1000 Points is pretty sharp , but , I have to think about that for awhile , a "place" could , can become nearly the same as a martyr , I suspect , if that place contains , remains , ruins or is the percieved place of a significant act , This one , though , in my belief , will not be one ....

[oyarde]

I don't see what that has to do with religion. people gonna hate, regardless.


Which society would that be? And the moral code was based on what?

Yeah , not sure I understand the "society moral code ' ,,,, at all ...

[oyarde]

There are no beneficial aspects of religion.

I disagree , what you really have to decide is , if the negatives outweigh the positives . Looking at history only and being an unbeliever , I would expect , one may decide that the negatives do outweigh the positives , I clearly understand that. At the same time , as a believer , I must suggest to you , that as screwed up as the world has been , without , people who were peaceful believers , the world would be worse . Anyway , I wil still buy you a beer if we can talk about anything but current religions

[oyarde]

Whether religion is based on facts or fantasies, people have certain deistic tendencies that are the result of our development as a species. If they don't worship God, they will worship the State as their God. Might as well have have something that occasionally does good things (religion) than an entity that only knows how to destroy (government).

I concur.

[Monk]

This Merah fk is a disgrace to Islam

You just can't justify this crap even when you take the salafists teachings at face value