Ok whoever tweeted me that CFR site made me furious
Speak for yourself CFR i know that every candidate in America has been a member of your club and with it it has always started every since with Reagen now what was so great about Reagen again?But I think because around the world we're seeing political awakenings, we're seeing regimes in the Middle East fall, it's important to put what's happened in Russia in that context, because that's sort of what everybody is doing.
And I do think that it's important to distinguish between, let's say, regimes in the Middle East, which were extremely isolated and enjoyed minimal popular legitimacy, with the Putin regime. I mean, we can argue about the numbers. We know that it wasn't free and fair. We know that the -- that the books were cooked to some extent.
And look what the CFR Punks and Thugs are saying about the freedom in the press in Russia what a double standard.SESTANOVICH: So I think that's an important part.
With missile defense, the Russians are always on a hair trigger to say goofy things. But that -- but those goofy things are not the only things that get said.
Well, freedom of the press in Russia is a very mixed picture, because you can read any nasty thing you want in the newspapers, but you cannot say any nasty thing you want on television. And in fact, many people are blacklisted from television. I mean, just to give you one example, the most interesting charismatic new political figure to emerge from this whole period of popular mobilization is this guy Alexei Navalny. He hasn't been on TV once. (Laughs.) In any system where journalists were able to make their choices as to who to have on television on the basis of what they think people would be interested in, you would be -- you would have a mad scramble to book Alexei Navalny. But when Alexei Navalny was booked for one show, that show was cancelled.
Alexei Navalny again? doesn't CFR Sestanovich that that Alexei has a Skinhead nationalist past? which a lot of Russians dont agree upon with?
Nice false statements by Sestanovich.SESTANOVICH: Oh, regime change. You know, Putin is going to try like hell. There were a lot of people in December who were saying, you know, we really -- the jig is up, our system is as doomed as Mubarak's. And Putin gave a hell of a show of being able to mobilize popular opinion in a way that Mubarak never could. You know, you didn't see Mubarak managing to bring together competing rallies in downtown Cairo in which he got as many emotional people as his opposition.
More double standard.
You have to be joking me pretends to be a democracy? ok i could say the same thing about the Canadian, And American elections to then.SESTANOVICH: Well, I -- you know, I -- when I get asked a question like that, I always say: But you know, Russia pretends to be a democracy and wants to be accepted in Europe as a democracy, with its own characteristics and its own slower path toward the full realization of, you know, normal European democratic practice.e
Because its pretty obvious who will win in Nov.
And that means it's harder to actually make the system work. That's why the term "managed democracy" was created. (Chuckles.) It meant we can't really have a full democracy. We have to manage it. And that means they get in the position of having to abuse democratic norms.
So the idea that you would end up with a conflict between Russia and other, fully democratic states as to where they -- how much they've actually progressed toward real democracy -- that seems to me not at all surprising.
Well please read the rest if your interesting in knowing who this Sestanovich person here you go.
He later served as ambassador-at-large and special adviser to the secretary of state for the new independent states of the former Soviet Union under United States Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (1997–2001).
In addition to his teaching duties, he is currently the George F. Kennan Senior Fellow for Russian and Eurasian Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations
The CFR Control Canada, America and as you have seen with that article they have a double stand point view of Russia and yes they agree with John McCain it seems.
But to claim that Russia doesn't have fair and free elections? what makes the CFR think ours is any different?