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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamC View Post
    Listen, I don't know anything about your life and you don't know anything about mine, so why you are trying to categorize me as naive I do not know.

    I just look at how optimistic Ron Paul seems to be about the future and I can't help but think he is on to something, that's all.
    I am not trying to categorize you as anything. I'm making a general statement about things. Ron Paul is a good man, but Ron Paul is a politician. If I were running for office, I'd be optimistic (or try to be) in telling you that things were looking good.

    However, I am a realist. I hear the horror stories about the TSA; see cameras all day long; can tell you about ex post facto laws being upheld by the courts (like the Lautenberg Amendment and it IS ex post facto.) The big food companies like Monsanto dream of being able to control the world's food supply by modifying seeds. The police and military are rapidly becoming one big complex. Local police agencies are now collecting hard core military hardware. The county I live in boasts APCs and tanks.

    We are being governed and controlled by private corporations and unconstitutional agencies like the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security. We have created TRILLION DOLLAR agencies when the prices we were talking about were in the BILLIONS. Gas is going up; wages going down. Unemployment is going up while new housing starts are down. The fact is, we will face more foreclosures in the United States next year than at any time in this nation's history.

    Worse, regardless of whether the people pick Mitt Romney or Obama, your gun Rights are on the chopping block. The big headline of the day are the stand your ground laws and the clampdown on them will seriously jeopardize your Right to even own a firearm.

    I'm on this site almost daily. I see every kind of political group trying to use the Ron Paul platform to launch their own mickey mouse agenda. Many times that agenda is 180 degrees opposite of the stances that Ron Paul takes. I don't mind them disagreeing with Ron Paul's message, but what I do mind is that they take a few things out of context to somehow "prove" that Ron Paul agrees with them. So, unless we rally and unite... and develop a consistent message, the Ron Paul Revolution disappears the moment Ron Paul dies or retires.

    The back up plan is to DEFEND LIBERTY.
    Last edited by Enforcer; 04-14-2012 at 04:26 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Domalais View Post
    I would wait to buy until after Obama is re elected.
    The people did that the first time when it came to ammo. You couldn't find a box of ammo to save your life. I found 300 rounds of .380 at a yard sale to get a single price on many items. I then advertised that ammo for the Shotgun News posted price and some guy drove 200 miles to get it. EVERYBODY was out of ammo for months.

    This time, Obama has nothing to lose. IF Obama is re-elected, gun control will begin the day after the election. Of course, the same holds true if Mitt Romney gets the nod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer View Post
    I am not trying to categorize you as anything. I'm making a general statement about things. Ron Paul is a good man, but Ron Paul is a politician. If I were running for office, I'd be optimistic (or try to be) in telling you that things were looking good.

    However, I am a realist. I hear the horror stories about the TSA; see cameras all day long; can tell you about ex post facto laws being upheld by the courts (like the Lautenberg Amendment and it IS ex post facto.) The big food companies like Monsanto dream of being able to control the world's food supply by modifying seeds. The police and military are rapidly becoming one big complex. Local police agencies are now collecting hard core military hardware. The county I live in boasts APCs and tanks.

    We are being governed and controlled by private corporations and unconstitutional agencies like the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security. We have created TRILLION DOLLAR agencies when the prices we were talking about were in the BILLIONS. Gas is going up; wages going down. Unemployment is going up while new housing starts are down. The fact is, we will face more foreclosures in the United States next year than at any time in this nation's history.

    Worse, regardless of whether the people pick Mitt Romney or Obama, your gun Rights are on the chopping block. The big headline of the day are the stand your ground laws and the clampdown on them will seriously jeopardize your Right to even own a firearm.

    I'm on this site almost daily. I see every kind of political group trying to use the Ron Paul platform to launch their own mickey mouse agenda. Many times that agenda is 180 degrees opposite of the stances that Ron Paul takes. I don't mind them disagreeing with Ron Paul's message, but what I do mind is that they take a few things out of context to somehow "prove" that Ron Paul agrees with them. So, unless we rally and unite... and develop a consistent message, the Ron Paul Revolution disappears the moment Ron Paul dies or retires.

    The back up plan is to DEFEND LIBERTY.
    Like I say, I don't see where we disagree.

    I can't tell you how real life is for me, nor do I deny your reality. But I do think the tipping point has been reached and that things are changing.

    Hopefully it won't involve any TEOTW scenarios, the very very vast majority of folks don't want that, and those that do are being more exposed every day.

    So yes, let's prepare for the worst by every means, but let's not lose site of the goal, which is nothing short of working for the best that can be.

    Oh, and I do actually think Ron Paul knows more about the global system than I do and may have some sort of insight I lack due to his having more connections and whatnot, but I don't think he agrees with me about everything either.

    Carry on.
    Last edited by WilliamC; 04-14-2012 at 04:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcirvine View Post
    the problem is everyone who buys a gun legally will be in the government list of gun owners when they come to remove all the privately owned guns. the gun owners will be the first against the wall.
    Obviously you live in a State that requires registration.
    Let them keep thinking Ron Paul supporters are just a little army. Every military strategy manual in the world has examples of the bad things that happen to arrogant commanders of massive armies that underestimate the enemy. They all lose. We will win because the human heart, despite its detractors, is meant for truth and freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domalais View Post
    I would wait to buy until after Obama is re elected.
    NAW !!!

    Let people freak out ... I got a few really good deals on barely/never used firearms, after Obama was elected, and people realized they wanted money, more than the gun they possessed
    Last edited by azxd; 04-14-2012 at 07:47 PM.
    Let them keep thinking Ron Paul supporters are just a little army. Every military strategy manual in the world has examples of the bad things that happen to arrogant commanders of massive armies that underestimate the enemy. They all lose. We will win because the human heart, despite its detractors, is meant for truth and freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer View Post
    This time, Obama has nothing to lose. IF Obama is re-elected, gun control will begin the day after the election. Of course, the same holds true if Mitt Romney gets the nod.
    The argument that Obama will turn into Bizzaro Obama after the election is ridiculous. Gun rights have expanded in his first four years. Do you think that is merely a trick to lull gun owners into a false sense of security?

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    The best part about ammo? No diminishing returns! This next 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 is going to be just as useful as my other 14,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domalais View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer View Post
    This time, Obama has nothing to lose. IF Obama is re-elected, gun control will begin the day after the election. Of course, the same holds true if Mitt Romney gets the nod.
    The argument that Obama will turn into Bizzaro Obama after the election is ridiculous. Gun rights have expanded in his first four years. Do you think that is merely a trick to lull gun owners into a false sense of security?
    Enforcer is right ... I always go to the range after election results are posted
    Let them keep thinking Ron Paul supporters are just a little army. Every military strategy manual in the world has examples of the bad things that happen to arrogant commanders of massive armies that underestimate the enemy. They all lose. We will win because the human heart, despite its detractors, is meant for truth and freedom.

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