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Thread: St. Charles County Caucus RIGGED as Admitted on Talk Radio by Dokes

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    Default St. Charles County Caucus RIGGED as Admitted on Talk Radio by Dokes

    Go to the following link. Go to the March 20th 7am podcast

    http://www.971talk.com/Allman/Podcasts/Episodes.aspx



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    In 2008, they rigged the caucus too. Here is Tom Kuypers commenting on it to local TV. He was appointed parliamentarian by Dokes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rplrNr8I8s

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    And here is some commentary form a friend on facebook:

    It think my video link shows enough to know that Kuypers was in on it. His philosophy from a few years ago (this video was AFTER the 2008 debacle) was that the purpose of the caucus was the assign delegates to the winner of the primary. Knowing that's his philosophy and that he GOT out of SCCRCC, then BACK in after the 2008 SCC caucus, shows he felt he needed to get "back in" in order to control the next time around. Given he sat right next to Dokes after being appointed as parliamentarian (i.e. the person who says "yes, you're doing this properly", I'd say he was not only involved but likely the mastermind. Bennett got smacked down after he was Chair in 2008 and let it "get away from him" by actually following and honoring rule and order, so I doubt he's trusted as a ringleader anymore.

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    Well, we can still use this against him, but I'm not going to believe the speculation that "he's been in touch with the Paul team and wants to come clean as a patsty" talk until he shows it... He's probably saying that, but I want to see him say it to a real media outlet first... Otherwise I have to assume this is something for him to save face with pissed off voters without making it too public in his bigger interviews.
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    It's the 20:00 mark.
    Last edited by Constitutional Paulicy; 03-20-2012 at 10:09 AM.
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    This is GOLDEN!

    "I didn't know that that was not legal"

    "One of the things that we had hoped to do was have a fair process where the delegates were proportioned out"

    "When I would show up at meetings I would ask...I asked personally (at a meeting) if it is ok to take a nomination where it was nominated and was (inaudible) all in the same sentence. And I was told yes, that is ok"

    "What we were hoping to do, i think, was not have a full takeover of one particular group where they might only be represented by 1% of the county, yet that they would get all the delegates. They didn't think that was fair for St. Charles County. And I think the way that we went about trying to make that happen was just not done perfectly."

    "This is the way we wanted it to go"
    Last edited by hillertexas; 03-20-2012 at 10:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinchWhoStoleDC View Post
    Well, we can still use this against him, but I'm not going to believe the speculation that "he's been in touch with the Paul team and wants to come clean as a patsty" talk until he shows it... He's probably saying that, but I want to see him say it to a real media outlet first... Otherwise I have to assume this is something for him to save face with pissed off voters without making it too public in his bigger interviews.
    The people on the caucus subcommittee were the same lot that screwed us over last time. Dokes is not innocent and neither are the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty Rebellion View Post
    The people on the caucus subcommittee were the same lot that screwed us over last time. Dokes is not innocent and neither are the others.
    Good to know, considering it was you who'd said he'd approached the Paul team... You think he's just playing both sides I assume?
    The kids they dance and shake their bones,
    While the politicians are throwing stones,
    And it's all too clear we're on our own,
    Singing ashes, ashes, all fall down...

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    Yeah, they are all looking for a way out and feeling out the other side to see what they should say probably.

    I think Dokes finally saw some significant video footage bc he sounded hella nervous in that interview and his story has changed significiantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillertexas View Post
    This is GOLDEN!

    "I didn't know that that was not legal"

    "One of the things that we had hoped to do was have a fair process where the delegates were proportioned out"

    "When I would show up at meetings I would ask...I asked personally (at a meeting) if it is ok to take a nomination where it was nominated and was (inaudible) all in the same sentence. And I was told yes, that is ok"

    "What we were hoping to do, i think, was not have a full takeover of one particular group where they might only be represented by 1% of the county, yet that they would get all the delegates. They didn't think that was fair for St. Charles County. And I think the way that we went about trying to make that happen was just not done perfectly."
    Proportioning delegates is not a 'fair' process if the majority wants something different. Accross MO the County GOP tried 'proportioning' them when Santa didn't have a majority, and taking ALL when Santa did, to have an overall greater number. In St Charles the majority did NOT want Santa to have delegates.
    Last edited by sailingaway; 03-20-2012 at 10:26 AM.
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