County Currency As Strategic Liberty

[Travlyr]

I'm not a tyrant or an advocate of violence against other humans except in cases of self-defense. I have no power over anyone. I continue to oppose your experiment because I see clearly to where it will lead. Having said that, I will likely never live in Iowa, so in that regard, I'm indifferent to your proposal. It would be honest on your part to provide full disclosure if you are advocating counterfeiting (anything less than 100% redeemable currency) as a solution because it does favor whoever has the authority to print currency and their circle of friends.

[jabowery]

I'm not a tyrant or an advocate of violence against other humans except in cases of self-defense. I have no power over anyone.

If you did have power, would you use it to prevent a county from adopting county currency backed by nothing except its value in payment of taxes?

[WilliamC]

If you did have power, would you use it to prevent a county from adopting county currency backed by nothing except its value in payment of taxes?

Just so long as the citizens of said county could be armed and could leave and take their wealth with them, no.

If they couldn't and If I were able to help liberate such an oppressed people I would possibly try and do so, depending on other unknown circumstances.

However if they wanted to stay there and try to make a fiat currency work then that's their business, but I tend to agree that their attempt would be short-lived as motivated and hard-working individuals fled the local leaving behind the lazy and parasitic moochers to their eventual economic collapse.

The problem with the world today is that there is no where left to go, as there was during the 1600's to the mid/late 1800's in the USA when radically free-thinking folks could just pack up and leave to the wilderness when society oppressed them too badly.

[Travlyr]

If you did have power, would you use it to prevent a county from adopting county currency backed by nothing except its value in payment of taxes?

If the public school system taught honest sound money principles, then there would be no need for me to do anything. Nobody would agree to straight up theft unless they didn't understand how valueless currency works. Theft is theft no matter if it is the Rothschild bankers, the Federal, state, county, city, corporations, or the mafia doing the counterfeiting. Theft is theft and I'll never agree to it. If I had the power, then yes I would prevent it.

[jabowery]

The problem with the world today is that there is no where left to go, as there was during the 1600's to the mid/late 1800's in the USA when radically free-thinking folks could just pack up and leave to the wilderness when society oppressed them too badly.

You do realize that the plank before the Iowa GOP platform committee would provide many "places to go" that would use gold, silver, wheat, BTUs, food calories, etc. as their currencies, correct?

PS: One that I have broached with Page county is corn.

[jabowery]

If I had the power, then yes I would prevent it.

Even if there were agreement among all residents of the county that they wanted a county currency that was backed by nothing but its value in payment of county taxes?

[Athan]

@ jabowery

I feel this idea really can't really be considered unless it seems hyperinflation is about to hit (a mass of T-bill selloff in the news) and it does seem like SHTF will be having wild crazy sex with FUBAR.

Unless that type of event happens, it will cause too much of a mess and confusion in a functioning economy at the local and national level. Hence, IMMEDIATELY after a currency collapse, a contingency plan as you are proposing should this be done in a state of financial emergency as a "Financial Emergency Response Plan". (FERP? HERP A DERP!) I suggest you only create the plan for immediate review for local officials in a meeting of the county's commissoners' court as an effort to restore order in the community. I wouldn't bother with forcing counties to consider how to print money either as they HATE being told what to do. Only provide them that option for a recommendation and neeeded information. Recommend them work with local banks to coordinate and issue some sort of bank notes or certificates (Really that is all you need). Frankly they will want to vote on what to do and be apart of the process and not an administrative assitant. They may flat out reject the plan as they will still have lingering faith in the Federal Government. You may need to have Ron Paul like supporters in these political positions to explain the geo-political situation if anything.

What you CAN do right now is have a local currency done by PRIVATE citizens in a private association. (Ron Paul supporters in a region establishing an informal trade group) Don't break any laws either and don't run a black market with contraband. Simply have trading parties or something. Some folks may want seeds, some may want silver/gold collectables, some may want to trade food stuff for another commodity, and etc. Think of it like an informal year round gun show with club members. That is ideal right now. In fact, I think around the country we need to start getting physical networks like this like an offline social network that acts like an informal farmer's market/gun show/community markets.

[Travlyr]

Even if there were agreement among all residents of the county that they wanted a county currency that was backed by nothing but its value in payment of county taxes?

Why would anybody agree to that?

[jabowery]

@ jabowery

I feel this idea really can't really be considered unless it seems hyperinflation is about to hit (a mass of T-bill selloff in the news) and it does seem like SHTF will be having wild crazy sex with FUBAR.

This plank has pass the precinct, county and congressional district conventions.

What is your definition of "can't"?

[Athan]

That is fine. You can push this on the GOP plank. By all means, go ape.

I'm talking about real world application however. You can't just force a county to adopt GOP planks unless a majority of county commissioners agree and are ready to impliment a plan now and are going to vote "Yea" on the county currency. In that case, they will need to deal with the FED as they will NOT be letting your plan be executed for long. Your going to get people arrested by the IRS faster than you can say Wesly Snipes.

Now, UNLESS that is where you are at now, then I recommend what I wrote.

EDIT: By the way, it is good you have that pushed through. You are using the first steps in a legal process to prevent people from being locked up by using county currency. You are getting a political party to move towards removing legal tender laws that destroy the economy. Without overturning the law, your county members may be arrested for common sense.