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    There is a link on snoopes.com that is saying that all the hoopla is about nothing. Something about this legislation being around since Truman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinchWhoStoleDC View Post

    Be better than the people we're trying to beat... Don't think that just because you have a right to bear arms that you somehow have a right to use it against parties who are following the laws on the books (in other words, it's the unjust/unconstitutional laws, not the enforcers that need to be dealt with, and you're only emboldening the latter by combatting them rather than the law).
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    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-...-preparedness/

    Ready through the new EO and the preceding EO 12919. It is simply a redelegation of existing power and authority. Though Doug Mataconis brings up the solid points at the end of his blog (the link above):

    "There are, perhaps, some issues worth discussing that this EO raises. The fact that the President of the United States is still exercising authority granted during the Korean War and the height of the Cold War is yet another reflection of how power, once assumed by the Imperial Presidency, is never surrendered. The fact that an Executive Order like this was released on a Friday afternoon and has been largely ignored by the traditional media is an indication of just how easy it is for politicians to manipulate the news cycle. And the idea that the government has authority like that described in this document, even only in theory, and that most Americans aren’t even aware of it, is a reflection of just how little we know about the things that are done in our name. Those are all legitimate issues, but they go far deeper than this one relatively innocuous Executive Order."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Xar View Post
    There is a link on snoopes.com that is saying that all the hoopla is about nothing. Something about this legislation being around since Truman.
    I do not trust what Snopes says. We have been in soft martial law for years. The way this government does things, up until the last few years, was done incremental so that most people do not feel the full effect of tyranny.

    All it is going to take is a false flag to whirl us in a full fledged martial law lock down.

    It's time for people to wake up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I do not trust what Snopes says. We have been in soft martial law for years. The way this government does things, up until the last few years, was done incremental so that most people do not feel the full effect of tyranny.

    All it is going to take is a false flag to whirl us in a full fledged martial law lock down.

    It's time for people to wake up!!


    Agreed, people really need to start putting things together.

    Patriot ACT
    NDAA
    HR347
    Ex Patriot ACT
    Now this executive order.


    Its funny, even most AWAKE people are still asleep these days. Im not a paranoid guy, I live my life to the fullest but the evidence that we are heading towards totalitarianism is massive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinchWhoStoleDC View Post
    Umm, you're dangerously confusing the Supreme Court with the right to bear arms... The former is how you're supposed to combat unconstitutional laws, not to use force like they are... I mean, there's a difference between non-violent civil disobedience against unjust/unconstitutional laws, but the constitution does not protect you to use force, or even threat of violence against the state. You will be (somewhate jsutifiably) labeled as an extremist, and will only give them more ammo to continue to treat us all that way.

    Be better than the people we're trying to beat... Don't think that just because you have a right to bear arms that you somehow have a right to use it against parties who are following the laws on the books (in other words, it's the unjust/unconstitutional laws, not the enforcers that need to be dealt with, and you're only emboldening the latter by combatting them rather than the law).
    My 2nd Amendment right is completely founded on me being able to resist unconstitutional and unjust laws tried to be enforced upon me. Exactly why do you think our founding fathers ensured our right to bear arms could not be taken away by the government?
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    I was reading through it shortly after it was posted..... Anyone notice that one of the things it does is revoke and executive order under Clinton that was mostly revoking Korean War and WWII executive orders? No I haven't read through all of them.... but one involved government control of medical records...

    How does the revoking of a executive order affect the executive orders it revoked?

    If we voted to revoke the ammendment that ended prohibition would we be back under prohibition or does it simply nullify anything added but leave the previous ammendment revoked? I guess the question is... once revoked always revoked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbwarfield View Post
    I was reading through it shortly after it was posted..... Anyone notice that one of the things it does is revoke and executive order under Clinton that was mostly revoking Korean War and WWII executive orders? No I haven't read through all of them.... but one involved government control of medical records...

    How does the revoking of a executive order affect the executive orders it revoked?

    If we voted to revoke the ammendment that ended prohibition would we be back under prohibition or does it simply nullify anything added but leave the previous ammendment revoked? I guess the question is... once revoked always revoked?
    We would be back under prohibition.

    Not like we left, anyway.

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    So tomorrow, March 20, is the day Greece must pay out on its bonds...or so I heard. I'm thinking they might not have the money.

    Wait and see, I guess.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8EJ1RL20120319

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/fitch-...0-bond-payment
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    Whos buying the guns and ammo?... This thing is deeper than it is healthy to delve.

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