Why Do People Not like Ron Paul's Foreign Policy?

[realtonygoodwin]

There is a large segment of the republican voters that he could have made a sale to but failed. His supporters failed as well as shown by the majority of the respondents in this thread. They aren't republicans and never were so they don't even know how republicans think and just put their judgement of why Republicans didn't vote for RP. That is all fine but if you are trying to sell something you sure as heck don't sell anything if you refuse to listen to the reasons a buyer is not buying your product.
RP is advocating the complete destruction of 70 years of US defense posture. A defence posture that a vast majority of americans think has kept us safe. He is advocating doing this with absolutely no plan put forward on how it would work.He is advocating putting it in place without ANY phase in period.
RP comes across as having a very limited knowledge of strategic and tactical capability of the US military. The president doesn't really have to have a vast knowledge of this area but he better have a team of advisors that do. HE doesn't.
He has economic advisors when the economy is something he has vast knowledge on and really doesn't even need them because he knows more than they do.
I and others fought and fought to get him to put together a defense team to advise him. It never happened.
RP used a line in one of the debates when asked about having to fight a war. "Go in fight it and GET OUT!" It was a very popular and good answer but it came back to how the military would be able to fight a war from a US based defense posture. In other answers he implied he would fight to reopen the suez and panama canals. OK how would his US based defense be able to do this. He one time used a statement that we have planes that can get to any part of the world in an hour. Well I read that same vague article and for him to use that made him seem very unknowledgable of military capability and what he knew only came from reading news articles.
People have argued with me saying other candidates don't have to go into details on how they would carry out a missions but they don't have to as they can rely on the current system of bases around the world to strategically deploy the firepower. RP is advocating eliminating all of the world wide bases so he has to sell how his plan would work. He didn't.

Pretty much this.

[airborne373]

Because there is not draft.
Because the "war tax" is hidden in higher prices and smaller products.
Because the media is a sophisticated propaganda machine owned by 5 giant global corporations.

[Travlyr]

Pretty much this.

And This.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toyxC...ayer_embedded#!

And blatant vote fraud by the GOP leadership.

[The Free Hornet]

I just don't understand people that like Ron Paul's fiscal policies but don't like his Foreign Policy. Why do people not like Ron Paul's foreign policy?

They are lying. They don't like his fiscal policies because they have been in charge (or their neocon Bush was) and could have implemented any of his fiscal or domestic agenda if it so suited their interests. It doesn't. These are people who have no passion for liberty.

[BUSHLIED]

Not exactly what I was talking about. Quite the contrary, most of these people don't actually believe their religion, or even take it seriously. They only use it to justify their ego because they need a reason to feel superior to others.

and Romney and Santorum play right into that...that was my point. But all it takes are the "leaders" who believe to rally the poor people around them and their ideas...

It's a form of social marketing, think of Tim Tebow and his demonstrations of faith on and off the field...Christians love it and it helps the spiritual leaders and $$ for the sports teams...it's all fake. People behind the scenes are driving this...but it works...the news promote it etc...

again it is the same type of people that buy into Tebow that will buy into Santorum and war

[seraphson]

Because they (for some reason) are under the pretense that (somehow) non-interventionism = pacifist.

I wonder if it's an American trait though...you know... to hear/read roughly 3-5 minutes of TV/news and know all there is to know about a particular subject.

Just the other day I had my to-be brother in law chirp that "all of them" want to do away with birth control. The topic started on how Santo is insane and it rolled into that. I would really, REALLY like to know where his sources were but I certainly corrected the situation quickly.

Also, notice these distractions? Inflation is live and well, unemployment is >15%, we're running what, a near trillion and a half annual budget, we're full speed ahead in breaking a 16 T-rillion national debt, our liberties and bill of rights are being destroyed, we're essentially taking military consultation from the UN, bombing whoever's in the way of the petro-dollar, killed many very clearly innocent people and lost thousands of our own, we've exploded the .com bubble, the housing bubble, and the soon to be college debt bubble and here we are ranting and raving over fucking birth control pills. I am NO way downplaying such an issue but I believe with much due consideration we have much, much bigger and far more consequential topics at hand.

[ClydeCoulter]

Because there is not draft.
Because the "war tax" is hidden in higher prices and smaller products.
Because the media is a sophisticated propaganda machine owned by 5 giant global corporations.

And they steal (uh, borrow) social security funds and replace with IOU's they don't intend to pay on.

[Hyperion]

Why do these people want to fight wars so badly?

Because they like seeing America manifest its 'power' and flex its muscle on the international stage. This is a culture that glorifies war in the motion pictures. It's a society where kids play war games on their computers non stop. It has an education system that focuses five times as much on WWII as it does on WWI. My generation had GI Joe.Nearly every sporting event these days has some sort of tribute to a soldier. It's fine to recognize this sacrafice, but these tributes serve to reinforce the collective need for American military intervention abroad.

On nearly everything from media, education and etc, we're programmed to love war and never question whether it's just.


People don't understand the blowback or the incredible human and economic cost. Nor do they ever have to worry about war in the States so they are incapable of conceptualizing what 'war' actually is.

[Hyperion]

Heheh. Now we are getting somewhere...When Santorum and Romney "talk tough" who are they really talking to? The Christians...evangelical Christians and Zionist Jews to be exact. Accordingly when Jesus returns all the Jews will convert to Christianity. At least that is what they believe or purport to believe. But who really believes that is the real reason for Israel's existence. They both are the major problem in this country, but in particular within the GOP. For some reason I thought they were marginalized a long time ago...but studying history, it seems they are still alive and well within the mid-western states and South...I assume that their decline is what led many once RED states to turn blue. But it is true they don't want a republican form of government they want a theocracy...so we are engage in a long culture war within the country and the GOP. We must get them out of the GOP and then they will have no where to go but form their own party...

It goes both ways though. There are plenty of leftist culture warriors in San Francisco, Seattle and Boston who would love to impose their values on everyone else.

[Hyperion]

Many people believe, because the United States has the ability to wage war, it should do so. They believe they live in the greatest and most powerful country on earth and because of that, they also believe might makes right. To them, the U.S. can do no wrong and thus it's always correct when it wages war on others. They feel proud that their country can seemingly wage war with impunity. When they hear of thousands of other people being put through the meat grinder of war, they feel pride in the accomplishments of their country. Thus we usually hear them chanting, "U.S.A.... U.S.A.... U.S.A. "

100% on the money. I really don't think it requires more psychological evalution than this. Well said.