"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" - Sam Adams
LOL , pretty good , I am impressed . I only know a few living Catholics ( not on this board ) , I do not like to be pretentious , but I may not consider them to be particularly " devout " , that I am aware of ... but they are all fine people , quite sure none of them would have supported any of the worst grievences committed by the Church throughout History ....