Ireland Government Rejects UN Call to Legalize Abortion

[eduardo89]

Not according to Ron Paul, he claims it's never happened during his 30 years of practice.

There are very rare cases. I remember a few years ago reading about a polish woman who went blind because if a complication from her pregnancy and she wasn't allowed to abort. She tried to get the EU to force Poland to legalize abortion, but Poland fought back.

[Republicanguy]

IIRC, Ireland and Poland are the only two EU countries that haven't fully legalized abortion. Spain liberalized its abortion laws a few years ago under the disgusting socialist, feminist, atheist Zapatero government.

Germany's Constitutional Court ruled that from the moment of conception a new human exists with the right to life, but....that the government could chose not to impose penalties of people who abort before 12 weeks. So basically you're a human, with the right to life, but if someone murders you it doesn't matter. Sickening.

Athiest and socialist = disgusting?

Is nearly everybody here who replied here a man? You want to say that to a woman who has been raped and doesn't want to keep a child because of that? Read some facts on the Kosovan women who killed the children they gave birth too because of war rape. There is even an article published in the Guardian back at the end of the century on one woman's troubles.

[Hyperion]

Athiest and socialist = disgusting?

Is nearly everybody here who replied here a man? You want to say that to a woman who has been raped and doesn't want to keep a child because of that? Read some facts on the Kosovan women who killed the children they gave birth too because of war rape. There is even an article published in the Guardian back at the end of the century on one woman's troubles.

Hardly justification for legal abortion and killing a beating heart. For whatever reason the extreme cases always get brought up.

Socialism is disgusting.

Oh yeah, good for Ireland.

[Republicanguy]

Every component of Socialism is really so nasty?

So what do you suggest for those who happen to be in that position? The extreme cases always get broughten up because they matter, and they happen.

[pcosmar]

Every component of Socialism is really so nasty?

.

From inception to execution.
From it's very roots in collectivism.

Yes it is nasty.

[PaulConventionWV]

Every component of Socialism is really so nasty?

So what do you suggest for those who happen to be in that position? The extreme cases always get broughten up because they matter, and they happen.

Broughten is not a word.

[Voluntary Man]

You GO, Ireland! Happy St Paddy's Day!

Glad to see my Irish brothers just MIGHT being growing their spines back! Kick the UN and EU out, and show US the way!

[specsaregood]

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[Voluntary Man]

Athiest and socialist = disgusting?

Is nearly everybody here who replied here a man? You want to say that to a woman who has been raped and doesn't want to keep a child because of that? Read some facts on the Kosovan women who killed the children they gave birth too because of war rape. There is even an article published in the Guardian back at the end of the century on one woman's troubles.

Let me 'splain something to you, that you apparently haven't figured out yet, my confused brother:

Despite the myriad labels, there are only two philosophies of government, Coercionism and Voluntar[y]ism.

Coercionism is the idea that people can and should be forced into unilateral social arrangements, "for the good of society" (or whatever other nonsense is being peddled that generation).

Voluntar[y]ism is the belief that all societal structures, whatever forms they may take, must be entered into and maintained by mutually voluntary consent.

So, you wanna live in a commune? That's wonderful....but you can't force anyone else to live in your commune, or to contribute it its subsistence.

Got it?

[Republicanguy]

Let me 'splain something to you, that you apparently haven't figured out yet, my confused brother:

Despite the myriad labels, there are only two philosophies of government, Coercionism and Voluntar[y]ism.

Coercionism is the idea that people can and should be forced into unilateral social arrangements, "for the good of society" (or whatever other nonsense is being peddled that generation).


Voluntar[y]ism is the belief that all societal structures, whatever forms they may take, must be entered into and maintained by mutually voluntary consent.

So, you wanna live in a commune? That's wonderful....but you can't force anyone else to live in your commune, or to contribute it its subsistence.

Got it?

But to what end does your perception of society work? I don't think a Libertarian society can work even in freedom agenda America, I only say that because I obviously live in a kingdom and we aren't as free as you are, even if you see it as tyranny a lot of the time.

My outlook on somebody like Paul, if he could get elected, I think he would be more of a lame duck president, but he would be a good one in a sense that he is honest, and promotes peace. That is very valuable even for a leader who couldn't change much or people out there who don't all agree with his views.

I remember listening to a clip back in February 2007 and Paul was talking on the Alex Jones show and he said "If the people want to go to war, then there is nothing I can do about", responding to a sceptical caller.

The income tax has been around here for 170 years ago my kingdom, 1842. The government at the time said it would get rid of it but didn't. The original income tax was put into force in 1799 to prepare for naval war with france. So the roots of taxation have their evils, but times change and they can be for good.