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    Ireland Government Rejects UN Call to Legalize Abortion


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    3/15/12


    The Irish government is drawing praise from pro-life advocates for rejecting a call from the United Nations and UN member states to legalize abortion.

    The Irish Government’s decision to reject recommendations made by a number of UN member states for Ireland to legislate for abortion “recognizes the reality that Ireland is the safest country in the world for women to give birth” the Pro Life Campaign (PLC) has said.

    Last October, the Irish government appeared before the UN Human Rights Council as part of the Universal Periodic Review process and rejected calls made by six countries for Ireland to legislate for abortion. The countries were Holland, Germany, Denmark, Slovenia, Norway and Spain.
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    Good for Ireland!

    I'm glad they have the balls to stand up to UN.....

    Be nice if the US did.

    [Notice] No comment on the abortion issue

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    Ireland is a Christian majority nation, highly doubt they would do it.

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    Sanctions or cronyism, something will be used to get them to comply. Everybody folds.
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    I'm pro-choice, but I respect their sovereignty.

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    IIRC, Ireland and Poland are the only two EU countries that haven't fully legalized abortion. Spain liberalized its abortion laws a few years ago under the disgusting socialist, feminist, atheist Zapatero government.

    Germany's Constitutional Court ruled that from the moment of conception a new human exists with the right to life, but....that the government could chose not to impose penalties of people who abort before 12 weeks. So basically you're a human, with the right to life, but if someone murders you it doesn't matter. Sickening.
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    Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep
    The Irish Government’s decision to reject recommendations made by a number of UN member states for Ireland to legislate for abortion “recognizes the reality that Ireland is the safest country in the world for women to give birth” the Pro Life Campaign (PLC) has said.
    That is confusing as there are rare times when having an abortion actually is more safe for a woman than not having an abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    That is confusing as there are rare times when having an abortion actually is more safe for a woman than not having an abortion.
    We're talking about 99.99999% of pregnancies here.
    Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with thee.
    Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
    Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death.
    Amen.

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    You mean to tell me the Catholic Church isn't part of the satanic NWO, or are Irish Catholics free from the Vatican?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    That is confusing as there are rare times when having an abortion actually is more safe for a woman than not having an abortion.
    Not according to Ron Paul, he claims it's never happened during his 30 years of practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlyrp View Post
    Not according to Ron Paul, he claims it's never happened during his 30 years of practice.
    There are very rare cases. I remember a few years ago reading about a polish woman who went blind because if a complication from her pregnancy and she wasn't allowed to abort. She tried to get the EU to force Poland to legalize abortion, but Poland fought back.
    Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with thee.
    Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
    Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    IIRC, Ireland and Poland are the only two EU countries that haven't fully legalized abortion. Spain liberalized its abortion laws a few years ago under the disgusting socialist, feminist, atheist Zapatero government.

    Germany's Constitutional Court ruled that from the moment of conception a new human exists with the right to life, but....that the government could chose not to impose penalties of people who abort before 12 weeks. So basically you're a human, with the right to life, but if someone murders you it doesn't matter. Sickening.
    Athiest and socialist = disgusting?

    Is nearly everybody here who replied here a man? You want to say that to a woman who has been raped and doesn't want to keep a child because of that? Read some facts on the Kosovan women who killed the children they gave birth too because of war rape. There is even an article published in the Guardian back at the end of the century on one woman's troubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Athiest and socialist = disgusting?

    Is nearly everybody here who replied here a man? You want to say that to a woman who has been raped and doesn't want to keep a child because of that? Read some facts on the Kosovan women who killed the children they gave birth too because of war rape. There is even an article published in the Guardian back at the end of the century on one woman's troubles.
    Hardly justification for legal abortion and killing a beating heart. For whatever reason the extreme cases always get brought up.

    Socialism is disgusting.

    Oh yeah, good for Ireland.
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    Every component of Socialism is really so nasty?

    So what do you suggest for those who happen to be in that position? The extreme cases always get broughten up because they matter, and they happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Every component of Socialism is really so nasty?

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    From inception to execution.
    From it's very roots in collectivism.

    Yes it is nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Every component of Socialism is really so nasty?

    So what do you suggest for those who happen to be in that position? The extreme cases always get broughten up because they matter, and they happen.
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    You GO, Ireland! Happy St Paddy's Day!

    Glad to see my Irish brothers just MIGHT being growing their spines back! Kick the UN and EU out, and show US the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Athiest and socialist = disgusting?

    Is nearly everybody here who replied here a man? You want to say that to a woman who has been raped and doesn't want to keep a child because of that? Read some facts on the Kosovan women who killed the children they gave birth too because of war rape. There is even an article published in the Guardian back at the end of the century on one woman's troubles.
    Let me 'splain something to you, that you apparently haven't figured out yet, my confused brother:

    Despite the myriad labels, there are only two philosophies of government, Coercionism and Voluntar[y]ism.

    Coercionism is the idea that people can and should be forced into unilateral social arrangements, "for the good of society" (or whatever other nonsense is being peddled that generation).

    Voluntar[y]ism is the belief that all societal structures, whatever forms they may take, must be entered into and maintained by mutually voluntary consent.

    So, you wanna live in a commune? That's wonderful....but you can't force anyone else to live in your commune, or to contribute it its subsistence.

    Got it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary Man View Post
    Let me 'splain something to you, that you apparently haven't figured out yet, my confused brother:

    Despite the myriad labels, there are only two philosophies of government, Coercionism and Voluntar[y]ism.

    Coercionism is the idea that people can and should be forced into unilateral social arrangements, "for the good of society" (or whatever other nonsense is being peddled that generation).


    Voluntar[y]ism is the belief that all societal structures, whatever forms they may take, must be entered into and maintained by mutually voluntary consent.

    So, you wanna live in a commune? That's wonderful....but you can't force anyone else to live in your commune, or to contribute it its subsistence.

    Got it?
    But to what end does your perception of society work? I don't think a Libertarian society can work even in freedom agenda America, I only say that because I obviously live in a kingdom and we aren't as free as you are, even if you see it as tyranny a lot of the time.

    My outlook on somebody like Paul, if he could get elected, I think he would be more of a lame duck president, but he would be a good one in a sense that he is honest, and promotes peace. That is very valuable even for a leader who couldn't change much or people out there who don't all agree with his views.

    I remember listening to a clip back in February 2007 and Paul was talking on the Alex Jones show and he said "If the people want to go to war, then there is nothing I can do about", responding to a sceptical caller.

    The income tax has been around here for 170 years ago my kingdom, 1842. The government at the time said it would get rid of it but didn't. The original income tax was put into force in 1799 to prepare for naval war with france. So the roots of taxation have their evils, but times change and they can be for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    I'm pro-choice, but I respect their sovereignty.
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    Lets bomb em. They've had their last st patty's day...
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    Why is this even a UN issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    Why is this even a UN issue?
    UN states told they must legalise abortion

    Guardian UK

    A hard-hitting report from the UN special rapporteur on health as a human right says all states must provide safe abortion and contraception for women

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    I'm a supporter to the idea of an international forum like the UN, but this really does not seem to be justified that the UN dictate what countries do either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    UN states told they must legalise abortion

    Guardian UK

    A hard-hitting report from the UN special rapporteur on health as a human right says all states must provide safe abortion and contraception for women

    ----

    Promotion and protection of human rights: human rights
    questions, including alternative approaches for improving the
    effective enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms

    Official UN document
    http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc...ymbol=A/66/254
    Absolutely atrocious. Just another reason to hate the UN and hope it goes away sometime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    I'm a supporter to the idea of an international forum like the UN, but this really does not seem to be justified that the UN dictate what countries do either.
    The United Nations will get more power and have its own army, that's the nature of the beast. That's why Ron Paul wants the United States out of the United Nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    The United Nations will get more power and have its own army, that's the nature of the beast. That's why Ron Paul wants the United States out of the United Nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    my wife met a woman that had that complication when she was doing her maternity ward section for nursing school. She was in the ward having her 3rd child. I guess every pregancy was making her lose more eyesight...
    Was she diabetic, or have gestational diabetes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Was she diabetic, or have gestational diabetes?
    I just asked, I remembered wrong. She wasn't going blinder, she was going deafer. Every pregnancy was causing her to lose more hearing and by her 3rd she was all deaf.

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