I had my daughter's ears pierced when she was 6 months old.
I know a lot of people here are against infant circumcision, are you also against piercing a baby's ears?
Yes. The decision to pierce any part of one's body should only be made by an adult.
I'd probably have waited until they were old enough to ask for it themselves.
I was actually going to get them pierced right after she was born, but they didn't offer that service at the hospital. We waited till she was 6 months only because we spent the entire summer in Mexico and didn't want to pierce them there.Originally Posted by specsaregood
One of the reasons I wanted to get her ears pierced was because old ladies would always say "oh what a cute boy!" even when she was dressed head to toe in pink!!!
I guess it's also a cultural thing, my mom had hers pierced when she was a few days old, same with my girl cousins.
They are pretty cute in the earrings, it's true. You can get magnetic ones, but that's probably not a good idea for a young baby.
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Last edited by specsaregood; 04-09-2012 at 07:34 PM.
Cut = circumcision?
If he wants it later in life it's going to HURT and that's a pain he'll remember forever. My friend had it done when he was 13 or so, still remembers the pain.
I personally will have every son I have circumsized. I know, I know, I'm a horrible person, a child abuser, a sociopath.
I, however, can't imagine comparing piercing and circumcision. If my daughter no longer wants her ears pierced, she can just take the earrings out and let it heal. Hope she doesn't do that though, girls without one piercing on each ear looks strange to me.
Edit: you could have "lent" him the money and charged it back (with interest) when he turned 18
Last edited by eduardo89; 03-13-2012 at 03:44 PM.
Waiting till adulthood seems a little extreme if we are talkin a basic ear piercing, but I would not pierce an infants ears either.
I'd think whenever they are old enough to ask for it, carry on a conversation about it, understand the consequences and responsibility (pain, cleaning etc) it would be reasonable to allow them to do so in a safe manner.
When I was in 6th grade I wasn't allowed to get my ear pierced, So I took a piece of the "spring thing" in a spiral notebook and jammed it in my ear during school. Unfortunately, some of other kids that did that ended up with infections.
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yeah, but it will be his choice and his money. Cant charge him a loan without him agreeing to it, otherwise you are making the argument that he could later sue me for stealing it from him.Cut = circumcision?
If he wants it later in life it's going to HURT and that's a pain he'll remember forever. My friend had it done when he was 13 or so, still remembers the pain.
Edit: you could have "lent" him the money and charged it back (with interest) when he turned 18
It probably violates NAP, but not enough to get the government involved.
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*looks strange*
Her body, her choice.
His body, his choice.
All there is to that, imo.
On the note of it healing, the holes don't always close up. They also don't always stay even as a girl grows. To some, that's not a big deal, but to others, it is.
For her sake, I hope she likes them.
Personally, I would wait for a child to ask before even thinking of piercings.
Last edited by Invi; 03-13-2012 at 03:51 PM.
Yes, but there are plenty of things that violate NAP that I have no problem with.
That's how it starts. Then, next you know you are writing love messages on missles, doing keg stands in Bush's garage and high fiving bill kristol while watching bombing footage.
I beg you to reconsider. What are your reasons for wanting the procedure to be done?
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Why? The hygiene myth has been quite thoroughly debunked by every reputable medical organization and it's not a cultural norm in the vast majority of the world. You clearly know that it's a painful procedure. Why put an infant through it?Cut = circumcision?
If he wants it later in life it's going to HURT and that's a pain he'll remember forever. My friend had it done when he was 13 or so, still remembers the pain.
I personally will have every son I have circumsized. I know, I know, I'm a horrible person, a child abuser, a sociopath.
I, however, can't imagine comparing piercing and circumcision. If my daughter no longer wants her ears pierced, she can just take the earrings out and let it heal. Hope she doesn't do that though, girls without one piercing on each ear looks strange to me.
Edit: you could have "lent" him the money and charged it back (with interest) when he turned 18
ETA: If your daughter decides she doesn't like the peircings, she can always take them out and let them heal. There's no analog to this with circumcision. It's possible to "restore" using stretching techniques, but the unique tissue and nerve endings cannot be replaced.
Health, aesthetics, tradition, and I just don't see much merit to the opposing arguments.
Am I the only person that can't read/hear that word and not automatically have this playing in my head?
I think of this whenever I hear the word tradition (even includes the song)
Last edited by eduardo89; 03-13-2012 at 04:32 PM.
See my above post. All you've got are aesthetics and tradition (the latter doesn't make sense because it's not tradition in Spain or Mexico or the vast majority of the world). Aesthetics are purely subjective and as far as such procedures go, the decision is not up to you (ethically, morally, or otherwise) unless it somehow becomes a medical emergency.
I had both my daughters' ears pierced when they were infants. Both still have pierced ears, neither one of them regret it. One even has a pierced tongue and belly-button now.
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You don't see any merit to your child being able to have a full sexual experience as God intended? Circumcision violates the child's liberty and a right to a full body and genital integrity. It does not prevent against HIV or any other kind of disease. Circumcision leads to higher instances of erectile disfunction. No medical association in the world recommends the procedure. The US is one of the only few countries on the planet who still does it. Hygiene takes an extra five seconds in the shower to care for it. Circumcised men's sexual function is severely crippled and alters the mechanics of intercourse.
You might want to take a few minutes to look through this site. http://www.circumstitions.com/
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The latter two I'd freak if my daughter got.
See, I don't buy any of those arguments. It doesn't deminish sex. It does not "cripple or alter" the mechanics of intercourse. It isn't "genital mutilation".
I don't think piercing a baby's ear is a big deal. But one day at the park when I pierced a baby's ear the mother got all freaked and called the cops. I had to hoof it out of there and can't go back.
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Eh. Piercing ears is not as terrible, as it does not greatly interfere with any function. However, I would (and most places suggest this as well) wait until the baby is old enough not to injure herself with the earrings, and at an age where they can "complain" about the pain associated with infection.
Well, she's 25 now. She did it after she moved out of the house at 19. I had no say-so. My oldest is 29 tomorrow. She never pierced anything else but she has a couple of tats. So does the 25 year old. But neither of them have tats that are visable. Whatever. They're grown women, all I can do is sigh about it.The latter two I'd freak if my daughter got.
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Why were you piercing it at the park?!
No matter her age, I'll freak out if she gets tattoos or more piercings! Not much I can do about it once she turns 18 apart from freak out haha
I was circumcised as an infant but I left that decision for my son to make. He is 19 now and I recently told him I would pay for the procedure if he wanted it. His response was "$#@! no!"
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(psst . . . was a joke)
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