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Thread: NY Times: Dem Senators warn about Gov't's Secret & Alarming Interpretation of Patriot Act

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    Default NY Times: Dem Senators warn about Gov't's Secret & Alarming Interpretation of Patriot Act

    When are people going to start giving a sh*t about this?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/us...-act.html?_r=1
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    diagenes once walked around with a lantern





    we are moving that much closer to a global tyranny
    Last edited by Aratus; 03-16-2012 at 09:09 AM. Reason: o tempores o mores

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    Quote Originally Posted by No1butPaul View Post
    When are people going to start giving a sh*t about this?
    When the media tells them to. Which is to say... Never.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    I was going to start a thread about momentum and may later today. We need some. This is an issue that incenses people and could pull Ron cross over votes. I wanted to do it (not just Patriot Act but NDAA and civil liberties) as a money bomb because the act of pushing a moneybomb will advertise both the issue and Ron's stance on it. I want crossover votes and to encourage Blue Republicans.

    I was disappointed over recent primaries as much because of loss of momentum as anything. IF the delegate reports we are hearing add up to a win in three states (Maine, Iowa, Minnesota) and pluralities in others, (Nevada, Washington, etc) with chunks of delegates from elsewhere, then we are actually where we wanted to be (realistically) on delegates; what we need is momentum. I'd like to use civil liberties, an issue that does NOT incense the right but DOES pull in the independents and progressives, to build some, but it would take people here buying into it, and no one has (so maybe it's not as good an idea as I thought.) Still, now we are in a different situation with momentum than we were last time I raised it so here was my idea, a 'something's happening here' money bomb using the Buffalo springfield song if people want to, but whatever they want, and focusing on issues like this one and Ndaa and whatever (heck, it could be the 16T to overseas banks) people see as so shocking people SHOULD be paying attention. I would then want to make a push to tweet it and get it on liberty media and have videos etc.

    We have less momentum now than we should because WE have stopped advertising this. Ron was number one on twitter in mentions and was number four last time I saw. The msm sucks, but we don't have to cooperate with them.

    I see this as an issue that could drive discussion and could create momentum, personally.



    One of a few different threads on it, from a while back:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ning+moneybomb
    Last edited by sailingaway; 03-16-2012 at 10:54 AM.
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