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    That beat just grows on you.

    Going to check out Michael Rozeff blog. Sanitized coverage has desensitized people about violence overseas they fund and support.



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    The latest news is that Sgt. Bales doesn't recall (not surprising to me) the incident at all. At the same time, the News is reporting how he was a con man who bilked people out of money before joining the military 10yrs ago. They are shaping public opinion to show this guy as a scum bag.

    I believe Sgt. Bales is a fall guy. Simple as that. They couldn't publicize that a group of soldiers killed these civilians. Not after the damage control they were going through after the Koran burnings.....

    It appears the Afghanis aren't buying the "one man shooting spree" story...

    http://rt.com/news/massacre-kandahar...-american-705/

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    Could there be a cover-up? Was it a lone solider or a group of drunken soldiers?



    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82A02V20120311
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    If this is true, is urinating on dead bodies or burning dead bodies a new thing for some of these alleged war criminals? Their holy books were allegdly burnt accidentally, what is the official line for burning of dead bodies/urination?

    Why would they burn bodies afterwards after getting drunk and killing civilains including children and women in house? In an incidence in Iraq in Mahmudiyah killings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings ) when some soldiers were convicted of going into a house after getting drunk, killing civilians including women and children and burning bodies afterwards were also accused of raping a 14 year old girl. There is abolutely no such accusation here, what were they trying to accomplish by burning bodies if they indeed did that?
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    One soldier could kill over a dozen and injure others, but it doesn't make sense how that one soldier could burn them too. I am apt to believe the eyewitness reports of a group of drunken soldiers. When I was in the Marines, we did some crazy shit when we were drunk......this is bad news.
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    Standard issue is 30 rounds per mag. One guy is certainly capable, but my gut tells me the witness accounts are accurate and the damage control being done now is to make it look like an isolated incident by one soldier. Or perhaps one soldier carried it out and others came along to torch the bodies. Either way, there's alot of unanswered questions. And yes, it's tragic.
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    The more I read into this, the more I smell a cover-up. This was not a one-man incident:



    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
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    I'm telling you - the more I read into this, the more I smell a cover-up. This wasn't a one-man incident. This development of the official story stinks to hell. I'm starting to read articles that don't include the witness reports of multiple drunken and laughing soldiers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1




    how does a soldier walk off a secure base at 3am?

    "...a U.S. service member stationed at a U.S. base in the southern Kandahar province walked off the base around 3 a.m. local time......"
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...leged-killing/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
    The latest news is that Sgt. Bales doesn't recall (not surprising to me) the incident at all. At the same time, the News is reporting how he was a con man who bilked people out of money before joining the military 10yrs ago. They are shaping public opinion to show this guy as a scum bag.

    I believe Sgt. Bales is a fall guy. Simple as that. They couldn't publicize that a group of soldiers killed these civilians. Not after the damage control they were going through after the Koran burnings.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
    The latest news is that Sgt. Bales doesn't recall (not surprising to me) the incident at all. At the same time, the News is reporting how he was a con man who bilked people out of money before joining the military 10yrs ago. They are shaping public opinion to show this guy as a scum bag.

    I believe Sgt. Bales is a fall guy. Simple as that. They couldn't publicize that a group of soldiers killed these civilians. Not after the damage control they were going through after the Koran burings.....
    Im in total agreement. Since when have several eye witness accounts been disregarded so quickly. Not only that but the circumstantial evidence points to a group. Its a cover up plain and simple.

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    I agree that it's likely a cover up.


    How is Al Jazeera reporting it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
    Protect the Afghan Poppy-lation
    Full understanding of this, combined with a highly visible media presence, is what got Pat Tillman whacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Full understanding of this, combined with a highly visible media presence, is what got Pat Tillman whacked.
    Military was able to cover up Tillman incidence for quite a while, it took more than a year before real story came out if I recall correctly.

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    is this strange to anyone else?

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...istan-killings

    FORT LEAVENWORTH, Kan. – The lawyer for Robert Bales, the Army staff sergeant suspected of killing 16 Afghan civilians, says U.S. authorities lack proof of what occurred that fateful night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flightlesskiwi View Post
    It is strange.


    In latest news:


    US military sniper Bales charged with murder in Afghan killings

    Afghans are demanding that the accused killer of 17 civilians including at least 9 children/women be handed over to them for a trial in jurisdiction where war crime occured but Obama apparently wants to try him in the US:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/militar...ngs/53712206/1

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