Prisons - Private, or State?

[Lishy]

We all know Paul wants to reduce conflicts to the state level as much as possible.

But because of what we've seen from the horrors of the Prison Industrial complex, should prisons be state-run, or private?

[Travlyr]

For profit prisons are scary creatures.

[tod evans]

Prisons should be staffed by jurors.

The "wars" on Americans would change their path.

Absolutely NO prison for profit!

[fisharmor]

No prisons.

It is not a coincidence that prisons as we know them only came into being at the same time as state-run schools, fiat central banking, and the constabulary.
Prisons are just as unnecessary as these other modern statist phenomena.

[Lishy]

Prisons should be staffed by jurors.

The "wars" on Americans would change their path.

Absolutely NO prison for profit!

In other words, state run, by the tax payers?

No prisons.

It is not a coincidence that prisons as we know them only came into being at the same time as state-run schools, fiat central banking, and the constabulary.
Prisons are just as unnecessary as these other modern statist phenomena.

So where do we put murderers, bank robbers, and other real criminals?

[fisharmor]

In other words, state run, by the tax payers?


So where do we put murderers, bank robbers, and other real criminals?

The whole premise behind our justice system is that the "real criminals" are primarily offending the state.
When one person murders another, the only reason the murderer is punished is because the state has dictated that this is not acceptable behavior.
The fact that there is a victim even involved is only included in order to sway a jury.

Prisons exist to punish people who break the state's dictation.
I have no interest in continuing this paradigm.

In a justice system that had any regard for the victim or the victim's family, some sort of restitution would be sought.
As usual, I preface this by saying that there is no way to fully compensate a family which has experienced a murder.
But we could try.

And spending tens of thousands of dollars a year in stolen money to have a murderer sit in a cell watching cable between bouts of man rape isn't exactly in line with that idea.
I'm willing to bet that if you stopped and thought "what can I make a murderer do in light of the debt he is in to a victim's family", sitting around in a cell isn't on the list.

[tod evans]

In other words, state run, by the tax payers?

If there are to be prisons (and I think some people should be locked up) then the community where the crimes took place should be instrumental in enforcing the imprisonment.

When citizens have a vested interest in the "justice system" things will quickly become more just.

[green73]

No state

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[tod evans]

We all know Paul wants to reduce conflicts to the state level as much as possible.

But because of what we've seen from the horrors of the Prison Industrial complex, should prisons be state-run, or private?

You're poking around the edges of our biggest domestic monster the "justice system" (pronounced just-us)

In order to even begin to address the many failures the "system" needs to be viewed in its entirety, Travlyr suggests. as does Dr. Paul returning to the constitution....This would be a good start!

Some of the best legal minds have manipulated the "system" over the last two centuries to the point that the just-us system rarely benefits society and always benefits members of the system.

[Conza88]