Discussion: Marc Scaringi or Sam Rohrer

[tbone717]

Sorry, but what am I missing about Rohrer? He just seems like a run of the mill Republican to me.
Now, Scaringi - there's a candidate that I can get excited about.

Rohrer received the support of the libertarian wing when he ran in the gubernatorial primary, he was endorsed by Russ Diamond (a staunch libertarian) at that time who was running for Lt. Gov.

Here is an interview that should give you a nice overview of what he stands for on the federal level http://www.conservativedeclaration.c...es-sam-rohrer/

Summary: against Read ID, against Patriot Act, for a Fed Audit, for competing currency, against Obamacare, for Soc Security opt outs, pro states rights, limited government champion, for deregulation, supports a flat tax as an improvement over current system (but believes fed withholding to be unconstitutional), mirrors Paul on immigration, against foreign aid, supports congressional declaration of war, against the dept of education.

Honestly, what more would we want??

This is not to take anything away from Scaringi, but there is the issue of who can win - and that is a huge consideration when we decide who we place our efforts behind.. Rohrer has state wide name recognition, organization (remember he ran for gov in 2010) & money, Scaringi does not - and we vote in less than 7 weeks. Remember too, that what we talk about here as far as supporting one candidate or another goes so far beyond our personal vote - but is more so about who are we going to put money and effort behind. The race is not between Scaringi and Rohrer, but instead there are 6 candidates in this race with one of them, Steve Welch, getting the party establishment backing.

Essentially I look at is this way, if we have some grassroots activists working for Rohrer, some for Scaringi - then we are dividing out efforts and potentially we could see Welch win the primary because we were splitting the votes between two candidates we like.

[liberalnurse]

I'm 100% behind Rohrer. I like Mark. He spoke recently at our meetup and I admit I liked what I heard and was impressed. I just don't think this is his time. I supported Sam and was involved in his governors race. I like his positions overall. I've met Sam and spoke with him and really respect him. He has the experience, most importantly the name recognition and has run and won several campaigns. He has the organization in place. Don't want to see the vote split between Mark and Sam and hope the two can come to some agreement prior to the primary. Welsh is an absolultely no friend of Liberty. And Casey really has to go.

[tbone717]

And Casey really has to go.

Ain't that the truth.

For those that can't see the bigger picture of the progress that we are making in the libertarian wing of the GOP, consider this. PA has when for the Democrats in every Presidential election since 1992. Five years ago our Senators were Casey and Specter (arguably the biggest RINO in the history of RINOs). Quite possibly by 2013 we could have Toomey (fiscal conservative) and Rohrer (a solid libertarian). What a huge difference 5 years makes.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I think that fact that he supports competing currencies says a lot.

[Shane Harris]

Rohrer is Demint. Scaringi is Paul. Rohrer is not a libertarian by any stretch. He is just a fiscal conservative, who I am sure would vote for extending the drug war, the war on terror, and couldn't care less about monetary policy. But by all means go crazy for him just because he has a better shot at winning.

[tbone717]

Rohrer is Demint. Scaringi is Paul. Rohrer is not a libertarian by any stretch. He is just a fiscal conservative, who I am sure would vote for extending the drug war, the war on terror, and couldn't care less about monetary policy. But by all means go crazy for him just because he has a better shot at winning.

Did you listen to the interview posted a few posts back?

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Rohrer is Demint. Scaringi is Paul. Rohrer is not a libertarian by any stretch. He is just a fiscal conservative, who I am sure would vote for extending the drug war, the war on terror, and couldn't care less about monetary policy. But by all means go crazy for him just because he has a better shot at winning.

From the above: against foreign aid, for declaration of war, for audit of fed and competing currencies, against Patriot Act.

He is better than Jim DeMint. He is also better than Bob Casey, the Democrat incumbent. He is also better than Marc Scaringi, because Scaringi will not be in the Senate.

He isn't perfect. If you want perfect then we will continue to never make any progress.

[tbone717]

From the above: against foreign aid, for declaration of war, for audit of fed and competing currencies, against Patriot Act.

He is better than Jim DeMint. He is also better than Bob Casey, the Democrat incumbent. He is also better than Marc Scaringi, because Scaringi will not be in the Senate.

He isn't perfect. If you want perfect then we will continue to never make any progress.

Right and as a grassroots activist we represent more than one vote - potentially each activist could bring in hundreds if not thousands of votes. If we have grassroots activists working against each other then potentially the establishment candidate could win the primary because we are splitting our efforts.

[JNL]

Thanks for the interview link, tbone717. I listened.
I don't know the history of Rohrer's endorsement by libertarians, but I suspect that he must have simply been the best candidate at the time. I am convinced that there is a better candidate today, and I plan to go with my gut and support the best candidate rather than the one who is currently most popular. If people would stop worrying about electability (which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy), Ron Paul would be doing quite well, no?
After this further research, I wouldn't be *crushed* if Rohrer won the primary - but I plan to do whatever I can to help Scaringi win.

[tbone717]

Thanks for the interview link, tbone717. I listened.
I don't know the history of Rohrer's endorsement by libertarians, but I suspect that he must have simply been the best candidate at the time. I am convinced that there is a better candidate today, and I plan to go with my gut and support the best candidate rather than the one who is currently most popular. If people would stop worrying about electability (which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy), Ron Paul would be doing quite well, no?
After this further research, I wouldn't be *crushed* if Rohrer won the primary - but I plan to do whatever I can to help Scaringi win.

It is a matter of realism. The primary is in less than seven weeks and the guy has no name recognition, no money and little if any organization. Rohrer has all of the above and even has a phone from home program in place.

BTW what policy position of Rohrer's do you think is fundamentally different than Scaringi's? When you compare the two, I see little if any difference philosophically. The only difference that I can see is superficial as Scaringi's website is designed to attract the RP supporters by using the right buzzwords, where Rohrer's has a more broad based appeal.