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Just found the summary of it on Cain's site:
Removes all payroll taxes and unites all tax payers
Provides the least incentive to evade taxes and the fewest opportunities to do so
Lifts a $430 billion dead-weight burden on the economy due to compliance, enforcement, collection, etc…
Is fair, simple, efficient, neutral, and transparent
Ends nearly all deductions and special interest favors
Features zero tax on capital gains and repatriated profits
Exports leave our shores without the Business Tax or the Sales Tax embedded in their cost, making them world class competitive. Imports are subject to the same taxation as domestically produced goods, leveling the playing field.
Lowest marginal rates on production
Kills the Death Tax
Allows immediate expensing of business investments
Eliminates double taxation of dividends
Increases capital formation which aids capital availability for small businesses
Increased capital per worker drives productivity and wage growth
Features a platform to launch properly structured Empowerment Zones to renew our inner cities
The pro-growth, pro-job, pro-export economic policies of the 9-9-9 PLAN equals a strong dollar policy
Ultimately replaces individual and corporate income taxes
Ends the IRS as we know it and repeals the 16th Amendment
Peter Schiff said it was a bad deal for poor and working class because it would effectively raise their taxes:
He starts criticizing it at 5:11
I think they may have addressed that: "Empowerment Zones will offer additional deductions for those living and/or working in the zone." Maybe this is in response to the criticism.
Trust me, I am not for it or against it, just trying to figure it out.
It's regressive and hurts poor people like me. It's a total starter, if Rohrer is really for this, he's not getting my vote. I'd even vote for Casey in the general against Rohrer, that's how much it pisses me off.
I don't currently pay any payroll tax being self employed. 999 would mean I now have to pay a federal sales tax on all my purchases.
Last edited by 69360; 03-20-2012 at 01:29 PM.
I'll be seeing Sam tomorrow at an event here in town. If the subject comes up, or I am able to speak with him on the issue I will report back what I find.
Ask him why he doesn't support Ron Paul's 'Restore America Plan' instead of this 9-9-9 thing.
Rohrer just posted a facebook update. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rohrer...05392546155520
He has been endorsed by Cain, which is good because his endorsement likely means a lot.
However Rohrer does not advocate the 999 plan, but instead a flat tax.
So we know for sure he wants to repeal the 16th amendment.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
"god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
Cain endorsement makes me less likely to vote for him. I hate Cain's tax plans.
Smith is running prime time major network ads tonight. Actually they aren't that bad. Says he would never vote to raise the debt ceiling.
It's a shame the state gop endorsed this guy.
Welch Takes Flak for PAGOP Endorsement Practices
“My understanding is that he did this as part of ‘Operation Chaos,’” Corbett said.
But there’s a problem. Welch switched from Republican to Democrat in 2005, not 2008.
‘Operation Chaos’ had nothing to do with it.
And once again, the guys from The Conservative Declaration talk about the exact same thing as us in here.
http://www.conservativedeclaration.c...m-rohrer-news/ The Sam Rohrer stuff starts about 19 minutes in.
I'm starting to think they must read this forum.
Last edited by jeremiah89; 03-22-2012 at 10:51 AM.
Just saw that Sam is doing a "Red Truck Tour". 100 stops in less than 30 days. Damn good retail politics there.
Also an update from the "Conservative Declaration" guys that have been covering this race closely.
"On our show last night Adam said he didn’t expect Sam to push very hard for the 9-9-9 plan and that he believed it would never pass. He also said he believed Rohrer primarily said he supported it to get the support of former Cain Supporters across the Commonwealth and to expand his base. After reading Rohrer’s comments on the 9-9-9 plan I am lead to believe that is exactly what he was doing and he has succeeded now that Cain has made an endorsement.
Sam had this to say, “I am grateful for Herman Cain’s support in this campaign and stand with him in his fight for tax reform,” he also added, “Federal and state governments have for too long remained locked into tax policies that are often antiquated, inefficient and ultimately destructive to the free-enterprise system and economic growth. I support the major components of the Cain plan such as lowering rates; reducing the credits and deductions and moving toward a flat tax.” But the comment Rohrer made that most eased my concerns was when he said, “I support the concepts of moving away from the payroll tax, particularly Medicare and shifting toward a consumption tax, and will aggressively work for them if elected to the US Senate.”
Although on principal I am opposed to a federal income tax, it is constitutional so long as it is apportioned, the only way I personally can support a federal sales (consumption) tax is if the income tax is eliminated. Based on what I am hearing from Rohrer, it sounds as though he wouldn’t actually support 9-9-9 as Herman Cain presented it, but rather as a phase out program to eliminate the income tax and the ruthless IRS.
Although I am not 100% behind his decision to publicly sign on to the 9-9-9 plan, it probably was a good political move, I just don’t particularly care for it. Sam’s recent endorsement by Cain, along with GOA, should give him a considerable boost in the polls that he was already leading and he shouldn’t have any trouble getting the endorsement of Michele Bachmann who endorsed his campaign for governor and credits Rohrer for inspiring her to run for Congress in the first place. This may very well be the push he needs to carry him the rest of the way through the primary and beat the establishment hand-picked, Steve Welch who is quite possibly the most dangerous candidate running."
Last edited by tbone717; 03-23-2012 at 07:26 AM.
You know what? The last couple days I've been seriously reconsidering my support of Sam. If I'm honest with myself, I do like Mark better. And he has publicly endorsed Ron. That my friend, is huge for me. Not riding around town on the "red truck tour" with Herman Cain. Well, there will be free pizza and a photo op. (In Camp Hill today.) This doesn't feel rigth to me. Ron Paul was asked in an interview, When is it ok to choose party over principle. Ron's one word reply, "Never." So, I'm gonna go order me some Scaringi yard signs. donate a few bucks and get this show on the road. One month out people. Either shit or get off the pot.
^ Same here. Rohrer lost me in the primary with the 999 stuff. I briefly considered voting for him over Scaringi since Rohrer's polling is better and I thought both are decent candidates. But 999 went too far. I guess I could overlook 999 if Rohrer wins the primary and still vote for him in the general. Casey is horrible.