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    Smile A bit of perspective

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in589167.shtml


    Dec. 17, 2003


    CHOICE FOR DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE
    (Democratic primary voters)
    Now
    Howard Dean
    23%
    Wesley Clark
    10%
    Joe Lieberman
    10%
    Richard Gephardt
    6%
    Al Sharpton
    5%
    John Kerry
    4%
    John Edwards
    2%
    Carol Moseley-Braun
    1%
    Dennis Kucinich
    1%
    Donít Know
    28%


    1 month and a couple of days from today, last election cycle, Kerry was at 4% nationally. As we all know he went on to win the Democratic nomination.

    If in 33 days, we are still polling at 4% nationally, it means nothing, except that we still have a lot of work to do.

    Don't be fooled by the pundits around the mass media telling you that Ron Paul is a long shot. Paul is just as likely to win the nomination as any other candidate, and more likely if you gauge level of support and boots on the ground.


    Some pundits go further in to detail, stating that the Democratic party often has big swings, as in the 2003 example above, but Republicans are generally more consistent.

    Two breaths later, they state that the Republican base is more fractured then ever before, and relate them to previous Democratic electoral bases.

    However, they refuse to make the logical connection that follows.

    Ron Paul has the momentum, he has the message, and he has the supporters to win this nomination. Keep your eye on the prize and lets bring this home.

    Chris Matthews



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    Below even Al Sharpton....
    "Every generation needs a new revolution."
    -Thomas Jefferson

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    -Thomas Jefferson

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    Man, there is a 30 second commercial in here somewhere

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    Don't show that to O'Reilly. He doesn't want a history lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty View Post
    Don't show that to O'Reilly. He doesn't want a history lesson.
    Bill O'Reilly: Rejecting reality and substituting cold, hard, falafels since 1996.

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    So anything could happen this year. Ron Paul is in play.

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    How was it that Kerry was able to surge in the polls in such a short period of time?
    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -Plato

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    Kerry had a half a billion dollars of his wife's money to spend.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Paine View Post
    Kerry had a half a billion dollars of his wife's money to spend.
    ah yeah.. ketchup money..

    EDIT: oh nm, i guess that was an urban legend

    hmm well i guess its part true, yeah.. she had a $500 mil inheritance
    Last edited by nullvalu; 11-13-2007 at 01:46 PM.
    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -Plato

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    Can you dig up any similar history for the Republican party though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Paine View Post
    Kerry had a half a billion dollars of his wife's money to spend.
    Yes, money means a lot. Thankfully, after this quarter, Ron Paul will likely have the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahApocalypse View Post
    Can you dig up any similar history for the Republican party though?
    Republicans are in a similar situation now, as the democrats were back then.

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    Nice to have Mr. Matthews on our boards

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    We'll be in the high single digits or low double digits by mid-Dec.
    Hi!

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    Smile

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahApocalypse View Post
    Can you dig up any similar history for the Republican party though?

    As i said in my post, the Republican nomination has not historically been in play in the same manner that the democrats have. This fact is trudged out by old media very often. As a matter of course, the nomination is largely settled at this point for republicans.

    The same pundits that are fond of pointing this out however, are quick to point out that the republican base is more fractured than it has ever been, and the race is far from settled.

    What they fail to do is take the next logical step and compare the republican candidates viability to the democratic candidates viability historically.


    Kerry picked up the pace because Howard Dean got painted with "The scream heard round the world" , The former media sweetheart was demonized and mainstream democratic support went looking for another candidate.

    Basically, he was painted as "crazy"

    As Paul supporters we need not fear that particular brush, it was used long ago in the election cycle and it just doesn't stick.


    Point being, this race is ours for the taking, we are no more a long shot than Kerry was in 03, and our candidate is principled and disciplined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nullvalu View Post
    How was it that Kerry was able to surge in the polls in such a short period of time?
    skull & bones
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    CD3 Pennsylvania

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