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    I have to share this quote. Some random guy on FB just toss this on a thread.

    "In the National Parks....signs say "Don't Feed the Animals". Why? Because the animals get use to handouts and lose the ability to fend for themselves. Sound familiar?"



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    Yeah and if you stop feeding them they'll turn on ya

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    Yeaw that bear you are feeding the grapes, is going to want some meat afterwards and if you can't supply it he will eat YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo069 View Post
    Isn't It Ironic? The food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever.

    Meanwhile, the Park Service, also part of the Department of Agriculture, asks us to "please do not feed the animals" because the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whippoorwill View Post
    I have to share this quote. Some random guy on FB just toss this on a thread.

    "In the National Parks....signs say "Don't Feed the Animals". Why? Because the animals get use to handouts and lose the ability to fend for themselves. Sound familiar?"
    I copied this and put it on my Facebook wall. About two minutes this popped up as the status of someone on my friends list:

    i've been seeing alot of stuff about people getting hand outs and all that jazz. I'm not ashamed to admit that i get help from social services. This does not mean i don't know how to take care of myself..it means i need help. There are people who abuse it and i see it everytime i go to SS. I guess some people are lucky enough that they don't need help. Unless you've wondered where your next meal is coming from i would kindly ask ya to shut it. Thanks :~)
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    This does not mean i don't know how to take care of myself..it means i need help. There are people who abuse it and i see it everytime i go to SS.
    When does "See Something, Say Something" start getting applied to these sorts of things?

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    panem et circenses

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryb View Post
    When does "See Something, Say Something" start getting applied to these sorts of things?
    I think my favorite part of it all is that she assumes that since I don't beg the government for everything that I have that I must have no struggles at all. I guess she was not paying attention on nights when I have gone hungry so my kids could eat and when I have sat for 10+ hours in the freezing cold to sell stuff so my kids could have the basics of life.
    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
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    I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870


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    Liberal friend's response:
    Sure, even if the animal in injured or sick, far better to let nature take its course, right? Survival of the fittest and all that. Cull the herd of those too weak.
    My response:
    There's no sign about that, so I'm guessing if you want to give a grizzly bear an abortion, NPS is OK with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    I copied this and put it on my Facebook wall. About two minutes this popped up as the status of someone on my friends list:
    Curious as to how/if you replied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    Curious as to how/if you replied?
    I have not replied yet and not sure if I will. It was on her own wall and I am not one that likes to walk into another's yard just to pick a fight and plus I am getting ready to go finish up my truck so not sure I want to get into a long debate on Facebook.
    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
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    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
    I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    I copied this and put it on my Facebook wall. About two minutes this popped up as the status of someone on my friends list:
    i've been seeing alot of stuff about people getting hand outs and all that jazz. I'm not ashamed to admit that i get help from social services. This does not mean i don't know how to take care of myself..it means i need help. There are people who abuse it and i see it everytime i go to SS. I guess some people are lucky enough that they don't need help. Unless you've wondered where your next meal is coming from i would kindly ask ya to shut it. Thanks :~)
    "Actually, yes I am wondering something. I wondering how successful you are in finding meals by perusing facebook on a Friday morning. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancisMarion View Post
    "Actually, yes I am wondering something. I wondering how successful you are in finding meals by perusing facebook on a Friday morning. "
    There are no crimes against people.
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    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancisMarion View Post
    "Actually, yes I am wondering something. I wondering how successful you are in finding meals by perusing facebook on a Friday morning. "
    Haha, perfect response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancisMarion View Post
    "Actually, yes I am wondering something. I wondering how successful you are in finding meals by perusing facebook on a Friday morning. "
    Did the post say it was posted from an Iphone?

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    Maybe if we stop feeding them they will start eating their young.

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    Well at my train station, they say don't feed the birds cuz they dirty up the place pretty fast I think that's reasonable, but National Parks? that's just ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    I think my favorite part of it all is that she assumes that since I don't beg the government for everything that I have that I must have no struggles at all. I guess she was not paying attention on nights when I have gone hungry so my kids could eat and when I have sat for 10+ hours in the freezing cold to sell stuff so my kids could have the basics of life.

    It's because you are lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTreat View Post
    It's because you are lucky
    I believe the accepted term is "more fortunate than others".
    'Cause it's all fate, you know.
    There are no crimes against people.
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    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    some people look at welfare and see all the people who don't need to be on it that are, or have been on it for so long that it's become a serious problem. other people look at those who are in truly unfortunate times, and want to give them a helping hand.

    we have this divide on almost all issues. refusing to see the other's position, in any way, shape, or form, causes communication breakdown that prevents any level of moving forward towards a solution.

    You're never, ever going to convince some people that providing, say, unemployment to a family man with 4 children for a few months after he lost his job during a repression while he's looking for work is a bad idea. While I understand 'your' side of the animal analogy, someone on the other side simply hears you calling the unfortunate 'animals' and it sounds like an insult - just as if someone tried to say the liberty movement was, say, like wanting to live 'like animals without any law' (or whatever) - an oversimplification that ignores our real issues.

    To then try to insult people because they 'might have an iphone', or that they're 'not looking for work this very second' just further expands the divide. You have no idea what their situation is. We're still humans. We still have friends. Taking a break to look at facebook and catch up with friends, or using your limited resources to keep a phone handy, are part of life. I don't use/have either, but I know even if I was looking for a job, I'd still log onto here occasionally, for example.

    That woman was pushed away by the comparison to animals, and I'm sure many others would be too. The point is lost, because of presentation. Because it's over simplistic and insulting. At least, that's my 2 cents.
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