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    Default You won't read this thread because you don't like the truth. We lose if we don't ADAPT.

    THIS IS A REVOLUTION & YOU BETTER F'ING ACT LIKE YOU'RE FIGHTING IN ONE IF YOU WANT RON PAUL TO BE PRESIDENT PAUL

    If we don't change our forum/grassroots mentality, we will lose (this election). Plain and simple.


    Stop the speculation and POINTLESS topics/threads and start promoting ACTIVISM & ORGANIZATION.


    We will literally be the end of ourselves, most of us are the very sheeple we condemn the rest of the country of being.



    Sorry if this is too much of a REALITY CHECK for you but I'm here to win NOT chit chat.



    If you are here to win, you better start changing the way you operate on these forums and in your free-time.


    I've already accepted that we weren't losing because of fraud, we're losing because all of the so called 'hardcore Ron Paul supporters' aren't very hardcore after all.

    We definitely don't live up to the name and reputation that has been given to us.



    TOO MUCH BARK, NOT ENOUGH BITE.



    STOP F'ING SPECULATING. DO SOMETHING IF YOU ARE ABLE TO.


    -Call Washington friday and Saturday morning. All day Saturday-Tuesday for Super Tuesday
    www.phone.ronpaul2012.com

    This is a message from John Tate, TODAY:
    "If Ron Paul is going to finish strong on Super Tuesday, we must make sure as many identified supporters as possible show up to vote.

    Our numbers show that if we can turn out every supporter we've identified in key Super Tuesday states, Ron Paul WILL have an INCREDIBLY strong showing."
    GET ON THE PHONES.

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    -Read up on your delegates:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ook-no-further!

    -get on www.ronpaulcountry.com & www.meetup.com BE ACTIVE, START EVENTS, BUILD A VOLUNTEER DATABASE...DO SOMETHING.

    -Help others promote their local activism by BUMPING activism threads and keeping them alive.

    -pump donations





    If you have a suggestion, name it and I'll ADD it in the OP.
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    Isn't saying "we lose if we don't adapt" itself speculation?

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    Well, there is no way they are going to allow Ron Paul to win. The objective is to continue the fight...get lots of delegates, push the Liberty movement further along, organize and start putting Ron Paul principles to work at the local level. Our Ron Paul group has become a PAC and we are going to effect change on the local level..we are already supporting Ron Paul candidates locally..we have to first change our own back yards. All Politics is Local.

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    Rant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    DO SOMETHING IF YOU ARE ABLE TO.
    "DO SOMETHING." Do what, exactly? What do you suggest?

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    I think the problem is we're fighting blind. How do you compete with a multi-billion dollar industry that has the average citizen so tightly gripped? What do you do? I know of at least half of the people that I know who REFUSE to support Ron Paul, refuse to support him because they listen to Hannity, Beck, Rush, etc. They view these people as gods, as if they have all the answers. It's not possible to get through to them. Anything I say is wrong or a lie because I'm a "brainwashed Paulbot."

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    You know not all grassroots works the same way. For example people that want to be more active will gravitate to the grassroots organizations that offer that. Such as meet ups, cfl, daily paul (I get the impression that they are more activist orientated.)

    To try and make RPF into something like that is counter productive. RPF on it's own way very successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    If we don't change our forum/grassroots mentality, we will lose (this election). Plain and simple.
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    We will literally be the end of ourselves, most of us are the very sheeple we condemn the rest of the country of being.
    ...
    If you are here to win, you better start changing the way you operate on these forums and in your free-time.
    So you're suggesting we do more of the same?

    Sorry, I don't see any useful suggestion in your OP for adaptation, and the mods will shut you down quickly if you even try to evolve your thought into a worthwhile suggestion that Ron Paul's campaign could or should be doing something differently. (Critical analysis and suggestions for adaptation are not welcome here in the Grassroots RPF. We only allow anti-establishment news paired with our own rah-rah-rah's -- submitted in either pic, YouTube, or message form.)

    The forums are for groupthink: everything is rosy here; when voting results are below expectations, it's the medias fault; there's a conspiracy against us; let's have another Moneybomb; our delegate strategy is working perfectly; and if we just push a little bit more, we'll finally cross the tipping point threshold we've been angling toward for months after months after months...
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    I never got why a real activist network hast been made. I mean... I can say whatever I want on a forum or chat room and it effects not one thing I do in the rest of my day..... but if we stop being anonymous people to eachother..... just sans serif and times new romans..... but get on the phones. CALL people (you know that all my invites to events have been text messages and facebook? I heard not one human voice inviting me to an event.... And when I got to the event.... i met know one.... I didnt connect to anybody. I found the two people I knew and stayed with them) we need to hear each others voices over the electric telephone. Then we can start truly being organized and work as a real group. OUt there in, what I affectionately call "the real world", instead of just in here... on our majical forums of activism. We gotta be a face and a voice to eachother.... not just an avatar and a witty quote involving our love of the good Dr.
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    Some suggestions:
    Attend a workshop and learn the techniques for winning hosted by:
    Leadership Institute
    American Majority

    http://phone.ronpaul2012.com

    Organize a local group (recruit via meetup.com, facebook ads($75 of free coupons per member), google ads(up to $100 free coupons per member). Work with the camapign in your state and see if they have lists of current supporters.
    Get your local group to take over the GOP "establishment". The GOP is a grassroots run and elected organization. We have superior grassroots, right? Prove it. Take them over.

    Start an issue organization about something you're passionate about.

    Organize a campus(Use YFP or YAL campus training/techniques for recruiting)

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