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    Sorry for repeating the same thing a few times now, but there's no excuse for the campaign not having their own media center with YouTube hosted videos of rallies (and interviews if necessary because of copyright issues), and posted in a convenient, easy to search format on their website. If they can afford 2 security men, they can afford 2 or 3 media people to professionally record every one of their events, with crowd shots, and a very part-time programmer to maintain the web page.

    Some of the other complaints like RP's claimed lack of speaking ability I have no problem with, because he's not superman and I think his speeches are getting better and better. Plus the turnout he's getting would seem to invalidate that complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Sorry for repeating the same thing a few times now, but there's no excuse for the campaign not having their own media center with YouTube hosted videos of rallies (and interviews if necessary because of copyright issues), and posted in a convenient, easy to search format on their website. If they can afford 2 security men, they can afford 2 or 3 media people to professionally record every one of their events, with crowd shots, and a very part-time programmer to maintain the web page.
    It's not a bad idea, but honestly if something like this was in place from the start does anyone really think that it would have made a significant difference in the vote totals so far? Retail politicking is what wins elections. I would be much happier with Ron drawing a crowd of 50 people and winning MI, than him drawing 4000 and losing. Rallies do not win elections, nor do they give an accurate portrayal of a candidate's support, all it shows us is the enthusiasm behind that support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazek View Post
    Good plan there chief, rely on the corrupt corporate media propaganda machine!
    What the hell do you think we are doing here exactly?!

    THIS is the media.. This website is MEDIA. Not corporate media, but we are media. We are spreading the truth to people. People here are calling their relatives in Michigan and telling them the truth about what is happening. They can then talk to their friends. If enough people hear the truth, then they will stop trusting the corporate media. If they stop trusting corporate media they might start understanding Ron Paul's ideas a bit better. That translates into votes. What part are you missing??

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    Aside from Maine (which we all admit was extremely, extremely questionable), is there any actual proof that rigging was going on? Particularly in Iowa, because that would have made the largest difference to the campaign.
    Last edited by sailingaway; 02-28-2012 at 01:12 PM.

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    I have to say it and I will prob receive a lot of flack for saying it, but Hazek has been right all along when it comes to the media.

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    I also think that the media is more interested in the whole Santorum vs Romney thing than anything that Gingrich or Dr. Paul are doing. Heck, they are pretty much completely ignoring Arizona since that is expected to be a 'lock' for Romney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivash View Post
    I also think that the media is more interested in the whole Santorum vs Romney thing than anything that Gingrich or Dr. Paul are doing. Heck, they are pretty much completely ignoring Arizona since that is expected to be a 'lock' for Romney.
    the AP saying Ron isn't contesting Michigan when he has 4000 people at a single event and only one, inner city event with less than 1000, is a bit rich though, don't you think? And it is picked up across the nation, as well as in Michigan. Factual accuracy at that level should be dependable. Otherwise, why do we want a free press? Free to tell us lies?

    Michigan has proportionate delegates, something not very well reported by those saying it is 'only' a Santorum/Romney race in Michigan. That drives people to think a vote for any other candidate is useless. Impacting our vote with wrong information is not at all cool.
    Last edited by sailingaway; 02-28-2012 at 01:16 PM.
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    ^I wasn't commenting on their factual accuracy (I understand where the misconception came from, so I don't actually think it was a lie) but rather on the fact that newspapers exist to make money. If Santorum vs Romney sells better than Paul having a 4000 person event (which it undoubtably does), then that is what they are going to put on the front page.

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    You know what sucks? All of these rallies and what not that we saw in Michigan? That's a huge chunk of the people who will vote for Ron. He got what, close to 10,000 people at the several rallies, including the people who were turned away due to capacity crowds?

    If the media reported this insane numbers, we'd actually get soft support, rather than almost the only people voting for Ron being diehards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivash View Post
    but rather on the fact that newspapers exist to make money. If Santorum vs Romney sells better than Paul having a 4000 person event (which it undoubtably does), then that is what they are going to put on the front page.
    F-35's sell. That is what their job is.

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