Christians praying for Mandela’s recovery

[specsaregood]

It's precisely the point.
To say that Mandela is a 'flawed human being like the rest of us' whose good we shouldn't overlook, is to be one of two things: ignorant, or dishonest.

Uhm no. Perhaps that is why you needed to cherry pick that piece of the quote. Let's put the whole thing in context:

While Mandela is obviously a flawed human being like the rest of us, it's pointless and harmful to embark on a mission to discredit the good he has done.

I'm guessing you get the point now.

[smhbbag]

He is, and was, a very bad person. That is not public knowledge. It needs to be public knowledge.

You would never say the same thing, I hope, about leaders of terrorist organizations similar to the ANC. Many of them do a lot of good.

It is pointless and harmful to embark on a mission to suppress knowledge of their evil.

To speak of him this way reveals a fundamental non-acceptance of the significance of what he did.

Perhaps the savagery of his wife will jolt you back to reality. She said, in 1986, "we shall liberate this country with our our boxes of matches and our necklaces."
http://century.guardian.co.uk/1980-1...110268,00.html

Necklacing is torture and execution by forcing a rubber tire, filled with petrol, around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire.

That's his wife. That's who she is. That's who he is. This statement was a mere 7 years before Mandela became the President of South Africa. And 6 years before he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

I submit that it is impossible for any decent human being to look at that honestly and then say "Well, we shouldn't discredit his good."

[Vanilluxe]

He is, and was, a very bad person. That is not public knowledge. It needs to be public knowledge.

You would never say the same thing, I hope, about leaders of terrorist organizations similar to the ANC. Many of them do a lot of good.

It is pointless and harmful to embark on a mission to suppress knowledge of their evil.

To speak of him this way reveals a fundamental non-acceptance of the significance of what he did.

Perhaps the savagery of his wife will jolt you back to reality. She said, in 1986, "we shall liberate this country with our our boxes of matches and our necklaces."
http://century.guardian.co.uk/1980-1...110268,00.html

Necklacing is torture and execution by forcing a rubber tire, filled with petrol, around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire.

That's his wife. That's who she is. That's who he is. This statement was a mere 7 years before Mandela became the President of South Africa. And 6 years before he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

I submit that it is impossible for any decent human being to look at that honestly and then say "Well, we shouldn't discredit his good."

Mandela did not have the opportunity to do peaceful protest, because the government has already waged wars and raided black settlements suppressing liberty, he fought against the apartheid and won. It is just like George Washington who fought and killed British, because protesting won't work against the redcoats, is George Washington a terrorist? If we lost the revolution, we might think of him as an "evil" terrorist disrupting lives of colonist.

[smhbbag]

Mandela did not have the opportunity to do peaceful protest, because the government has already waged wars and raided black settlements suppressing liberty, he fought against the apartheid and won. It is just like George Washington who fought and killed British, because protesting won't work against the redcoats, is George Washington a terrorist? If we lost the revolution, we might think of him as an "evil" terrorist disrupting lives of colonist.

Get back to me when Washington turns out to have bombed public places, killed civilian men, women, and children on purpose, called for the total extermination of any race, and threw burning tires around the necks of countless people who were not involved in anything.

This world has officially gone mad.

[Vanilluxe]

Get back to me when Washington turns out to have bombed public places, killed civilian men, women, and children on purpose, called for the total extermination of any race, and threw burning tires around the necks of countless people who were not involved in anything.

This world has officially gone mad.

There were lots of farm collateral damage and the Battle of Trenton and Yorktown received lots of artillery barrage. Also the government destroyed massive mounts of black settlements and machine gunned down teenagers in peaceful protest. Mandela lead a revolution against the racist and suppressive Apartheid regime.

[smhbbag]

You have to be kidding.

[Vanilluxe]

You have to be kidding.

I thought you were kidding

[Aus4RP]

Isn't there a video of Mandela singing "kill all the white men" getting around the net?

[smhbbag]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc

But don't worry. George Washington would have done that, too.

[robert68]

There were lots of farm collateral damage and the Battle of Trenton and Yorktown received lots of artillery barrage. Also the government destroyed massive mounts of black settlements and machine gunned down teenagers in peaceful protest. Mandela lead a revolution against the racist and suppressive Apartheid regime.

Also:

...As the British concentrated on the southern United States in 1779, General George Washington took action against the Iroquois.

He instructed General John Sullivan to attack and destroy Iroquois villages in upper New York. Leading about 5,000 troops, Sullivan defeated the Iroquois in the Battle of Newtown, then destroyed over 40 Iroquois villages and all their stored crops in the fall of 1779. Because of the social disruption and crop losses, some Iroquois men, women, and children died of starvation that winter. Many of the Iroquois retreated to Fort Niagara and other parts of Canada, where they spent a cold and hungry winter...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwe...can_Revolution