My "opt-out" experience at the aiport.

[The Mad Arab]

This is where I insert a few of those ROFL icons.

Your posts of Santorum, Paul, the bible, TSA, and now guns are about as mundane as trolling gets. Please don't make your next thread about capitalism or home schooling. If you really want to be interesting, maybe you can tell us how Obama has been under a lot of pressure lately.

I told you already, if you have a personal beef with me, message me privately and stop trying to get public attention. Your comments towards me are disrespectful and are on their way to being harassment. Is this something the mods need to be alerted over?

[pcosmar]

If the business feels it is in their best interest to do this, then they have every right to.

Absolutely.
I don't dispute that. It is not a place I would care to support or waste my money on.
Nor do i think I would care much for the clientele that would.

[pcosmar]

Absolutely. I've seen guys get hit in the head with bottles as well.

Bottles, Pool ques, bar stools.
I got hit with a heavy glass beer mug once. Landed me several feet back on my shoulders.
Surprised the shit out of that stupid motherfucker when I got up and hit him.

But it was not inside any establishment. It was on the street outside, and I was just walking by.

I have always found that the more weapons the better,, I have never had that shit happen in a room full of armed men (and women)
I like the girls that pack heat too..
Keeps everybody honest,, and polite.

[CaptainAmerica]

Generally I can get away with getting on the metal detector only line, but LAX was all body scanners. It was my first time not having a choice and I was the only one around to opt-out, but I refused to go through. I had to wait a few minutes for an agent to come around and give me the pat down. He showed up and took me to the side. I was expecting some asshole government prick to deal with me and tempt me to mouth off for the groping.

I gotta say, I was surprised. He was actually very cool and the pat down was just a hair more thorough than what I would get going into a night club. In fact, when I worked as a bouncer, I often gave similar pat downs. The agent was very communicative and very polite. It was over quickly and I was on my way. As I gathered my stuff, I told him to watch out for those machines. He said, "I know. I don't trust what they tell us about them." I agreed and said the government isn't telling the truth about the dangers. I could tell he genuinely had concerns and he also acknowledged not wanting to do the pat downs. I could tell this was a guy who really just needs a job.

Don't get me wrong. This isn't an issue of me saying, "Well, it's really not that bad, so let's just accept it." I do feel the scanners and pat downs are violations of our civil liberties and should be stopped. But going through this did give me a new perspective on some things. It's easy to get sucked into the vortex of seeing all TSA agents as perverts and employees of the NWO. Some of them are actually human.

What is your point?

TSA is not suppose to be in private sector. TSA being in the airport is no different than if they were in a mall. Government regulation of transportation is crazy.By the way, not everyone had a "dandy" experience.Its very VERY personal for a person to touch someone elses body with or without permission because of course TSA uses coercion which is a form of passive aggression and it causes psychological damage to lots of travelers. Im sick of TSA.

[The Mad Arab]

Bottles, Pool ques, bar stools.
I got hit with a heavy glass beer mug once. Landed me several feet back on my shoulders.
Surprised the shit out of that stupid motherfucker when I got up and hit him.

But it was not inside any establishment. It was on the street outside, and I was just walking by.

I have always found that the more weapons the better,, I have never had that shit happen in a room full of armed men (and women)
I like the girls that pack heat too..
Keeps everybody honest,, and polite.

To a degree, I agree with that. But not every environment is the same. People wanna go to clubs and dance. They don't wanna be strapped and feel like Dirty Harry all night. They just wanna let loose and have fun. We just have to prevent the assholes from ruining that for everyone.

[The Mad Arab]

What is your point?

TSA is not suppose to be in private sector. TSA being in the airport is no different than if they were in a mall. Government regulation of transportation is crazy.

I think my point was clear. Not all TSA agents are demons. I was simply sharing an experience that happened to me recently. I'm sure many would prefer I reported back with a near-rape situation, but that just didn't happen.

[CaptainAmerica]

I think my point was clear. Not all TSA agents are demons. I was simply sharing an experience that happened to me recently. I'm sure many would prefer I reported back with a near-rape situation, but that just didn't happen.

"Just following orders"

[The Mad Arab]

"Just following orders"

I get that. But the point is, he didn't touch my junk to begin with.

[pcosmar]

I get that. But the point is, he didn't touch my junk to begin with.

And I get that.
I also oppose it on principle. From start to finish, hell, from the very concept.

I do not/will not fly anywhere that this is in place. I have observed it,, taken others to airports.
It sickens me to even observe it. I will find alternatives,,even if that means I have to have myself smuggled illegally.
I will not support or condone it.