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Thread: Rand Paul explains vote for Iran sanctions

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    I've been told by people who work in his office that he voted for sanctions (on their central bank not on medical supplies and things of that nature) so that if it comes down to him having to stop the war by himself with a filibuster (or at least force a declaration) then he will have the political capital to say that he's been going through the "diplomatic" steps (because even though we know sanctions lead to war -- in the media they are portrayed as ways to prevent war). If he doesn't vote for any sanctions the perception is that, "oh well you tried to sit by and ignore it and because of that now we have to go in."

    Again you may not agree with his tactics but his ultimate goal of preventing war and the fact that he's not voting for sanctions on medical supplies and food, etc. are what we want in a U.S. Senator.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyG View Post
    Rand has the right idea about the danger Iran poses once they obtain nuclear weapons.
    You're certainly in the minority here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor jones View Post
    I've been told by people who work in his office that he voted for sanctions (on their central bank not on medical supplies and things of that nature) so that if it comes down to him having to stop the war by himself with a filibuster (or at least force a declaration) then he will have the political capital to say that he's been going through the "diplomatic" steps (because even though we know sanctions lead to war -- in the media they are portrayed as ways to prevent war). If he doesn't vote for any sanctions the perception is that, "oh well you tried to sit by and ignore it and because of that now we have to go in."

    Again you may not agree with his tactics but his ultimate goal of preventing war and the fact that he's not voting for sanctions on medical supplies and food, etc. are what we want in a U.S. Senator.
    Thanks for that information.
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Endorsing is like telling the girl you picked up at the bar that she's gorgeous. A meaningless gesture benefiting only the person making it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    He said that he supports sanctions because he wants to do "something" rather than "nothing." He basically said that he takes a middle position of supporting sanctions against Iran but not war.
    If we listen to his explanation, however, one would guess that of his three options (doing nothing, doing a little, and doing a lot) "doing nothing" would be the proper choice, based upon his four minute explanation. Since when is killing thousands of children and others with sanctions "doing a little...?" And, were I in that audience, I would have asked what his evidence is for Iran's nuclear weapons program? Since my understanding is the evidence has zero credibility (alleged English Power Point files off some lab worker's laptop PC...Rand..you're kidding, right???). And, since they have never attacked anyone, why is it, exactly, that they cannot have a nuclear weapon? Like the U.S., Pakistan, and Israel? Rand evaded the critical issues here. Very disappointing answer. Well, Rand is clearly playing politics. Hopefully with some bigger plan in mind.

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    I like his answer. He spoke against war and even said sanctions might not work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    You're certainly in the minority here.
    I'm a little confused- what is he in the minority about? Rand even brought up the Mossad saying Iran having nukes isn't an existential thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Since when is killing thousands of children and others with sanctions "doing a little...?" .
    The particular sanctions that Rand voted for aren't the same as the sanctions that killed thousands of children in Iraq. Those sanctions actually targeted food and medical supplies. This particular sanction simply targeted Iran's central bank. (Refer to the post by Doctor Jones above)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I'm a little confused- what is he in the minority about? Rand even brought up the Mossad saying Iran having nukes isn't an existential thread.
    JuicyG sees Iran as a threat and supports a preemptive strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyG View Post
    Rand has the right idea about the danger Iran poses once they obtain nuclear weapons.
    What is your evidence that they are trying to develop a nuclear weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I'm a little confused- what is he in the minority about? Rand even brought up the Mossad saying Iran having nukes isn't an existential thread.
    I was referring to JuicyG who said that Iran will pose a dangerous threat if they ever get nuclear weapons.
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Endorsing is like telling the girl you picked up at the bar that she's gorgeous. A meaningless gesture benefiting only the person making it.

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