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    Default Rand Paul explains vote for Iran sanctions

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    Endorsing is like telling the girl you picked up at the bar that she's gorgeous. A meaningless gesture benefiting only the person making it.


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    Well I'm glad that's cleared up.

    Of course, I couldn't disagree with him more, but at least the speculation will stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesc View Post
    at least the speculation will stop.
    I think the speculation now is whether he truly believes it will do some good or whether he did it to be a team player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsai3904 View Post
    I think the speculation now is whether he truly believes it will do some good or whether he did it to be a team player.
    Good point. I'll guess team player judging by the way he answered.

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    Can't sum it up for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Can't sum it up for us?
    He said that he supports sanctions because he wants to do "something" rather than "nothing." He basically said that he takes a middle position of supporting sanctions against Iran but not war.
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Endorsing is like telling the girl you picked up at the bar that she's gorgeous. A meaningless gesture benefiting only the person making it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    He said that he supports sanctions because he wants to do "something" rather than "nothing." He basically said that he takes a middle position of supporting sanctions against Iran but not war.
    Yes, that's his explanation. I, for one, accept it.

    On the other hand, I would urge Rand to always consider the economic and crony capitalist motivations that also come into play. In other words, this specific sanction strengthens the Fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    He said that he supports sanctions because he wants to do "something" rather than "nothing." He basically said that he takes a middle position of supporting sanctions against Iran but not war.
    If we listen to his explanation, however, one would guess that of his three options (doing nothing, doing a little, and doing a lot) "doing nothing" would be the proper choice, based upon his four minute explanation. Since when is killing thousands of children and others with sanctions "doing a little...?" And, were I in that audience, I would have asked what his evidence is for Iran's nuclear weapons program? Since my understanding is the evidence has zero credibility (alleged English Power Point files off some lab worker's laptop PC...Rand..you're kidding, right???). And, since they have never attacked anyone, why is it, exactly, that they cannot have a nuclear weapon? Like the U.S., Pakistan, and Israel? Rand evaded the critical issues here. Very disappointing answer. Well, Rand is clearly playing politics. Hopefully with some bigger plan in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Since when is killing thousands of children and others with sanctions "doing a little...?" .
    The particular sanctions that Rand voted for aren't the same as the sanctions that killed thousands of children in Iraq. Those sanctions actually targeted food and medical supplies. This particular sanction simply targeted Iran's central bank. (Refer to the post by Doctor Jones above)
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Endorsing is like telling the girl you picked up at the bar that she's gorgeous. A meaningless gesture benefiting only the person making it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    The particular sanctions that Rand voted for aren't the same as the sanctions that killed thousands of children in Iraq. Those sanctions actually targeted food and medical supplies. This particular sanction simply targeted Iran's central bank. (Refer to the post by Doctor Jones above)
    But these sanctions are intended to cripple their GDP. Crippled GDP means no food and medicine. Possibly no shelter. Possibly sanitation services. Law enforcement. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Even if we send medical supplies they would perhaps be stolen by bureaucrats and thugs. This is ridiculous. Plus, as Ron Paul suggests, sanctions unify the people with their leadership, where before the leadership would be more vulnerable to political discord.

    Rand should be making the "evidence" against Iran a very high profile issue in the Senate and in the media. I see where Rand is going with this. I just am worried as hell that that this begins his slippery slope towards political compromise after political compromise, until he is a generic Washington D.C. insider and only a mere shadow of his former self.
    Last edited by anaconda; 02-24-2012 at 10:32 PM.

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