The RevPac "Game Changer" Poll watching app

[seawolf]

RevPac is the weakest of the Ron Paul Super Pac's. Nothing has changed with this "game changing announcement"

How sad!!!

[thesnake742]

I dunno guys, this app is actually pretty cool. The need and use for it are absolutely legitimate. We can confirm the results for ourselves with a source of exit polling done by a grassroots organization. Everyone just chill out.

[Suzu]

In 2008 the establishment could get by mostly on just ignoring/smearing Ron Paul. That's no longer very effective. So outright voter fraud is coming into play.

It's called "election fraud", not "voter fraud".

[parocks]

It could be useful to compile all the results in an easy to read, real time app.

The problem is the exit polling. People can always say they voted different than they did. What would be useful is an app that records and logs and uploads a small piece of video with the announced results of each vote (though they dont always count the votes publicly which is the problem). After each vote is announced RP people can then enter the voting result data to update the central app.

This still doesn't remedy user error though (RP people could enter the wrong thing) but it seems better than a bunch of novices logging exit poll data from the public outside the polls were the user error could likely double (people lying about who they voted for and RP logging bad or erroneous data).

Also I don't think chasing people around with smart phones asking who they voted for is the best image for Ron Paul supporters. It will be seen as disrespectful unless it is conducted by an unbiased third party. This app should be used to protect the real vote results not to report speculation and harass voters..

I'm not sure how this Iphone or android app gets people to the polls. I'm not sure how it helps Ron Paul win. Exit polls by the oh, so trusted revpac? It's nice to know that they can make an app though.

Just like most things of this sort, it gets people moving away from things that are helpful, and toward things that are not helpful.

No one is arguing that you shouldn't shoot video of a vote count, or whatever. Keep the results. If the official campaign wants the results, send them to them. If watch the vote or revpac wants the results, hold on to the results.

[parocks]

The fact that the Maine GOP was forced to change the vote count after the fact. Also the fact that they initially reported zero.



Sure. That they probably made a calculation that raising a stink about it after the Maine GOP was already forced to change the vote isn't worth the hassle. The fact that the was undeniable vote fraud doesn't mean it was enough to change the outcome. There might have been similar situations in other counties, but who ever on the ground wasn't as sharp as the guy in the OP video so the GOP could have got away with it. The campaign isn't going to contest an entire state just because fraud was found in one area without having something else to go on.

There's a difference between "error" and "fraud".

There were errors. A lot of errors. Way too many errors. An embarassing number of errors. A "Charlie Must Go" number of errors.

But errors aren't the same as fraud.

What happened in Somerset might be seen as fraud. What happened in Cumberland might be seen as fraud.

But leaving off most of Waldo, leaving off Waterville, that was comically sloppy error. But they fixed the error. I think what I'm looking at is people who are not good at their jobs. But I don't see fraud. I'm not saying it isn't there, but no one has come up with anything.

The campaign should have their own totals, from Ron Paul supporters calling them in, or emailing them, or the county coordinators. The numbers that the Ron Paul campaign has might be different from the Maine GOP totals. And they might be sitting on them for tactical reasons. But I see no evidence of that.

[kathy88]

I dunno guys, this app is actually pretty cool. The need and use for it are absolutely legitimate. We can confirm the results for ourselves with a source of exit polling done by a grassroots organization. Everyone just chill out.

I was planning on organizing exit polls in my county anyway, this is just a cool bonus.

[Simple]

This is a good thing. It breaks the MSM's monopoly on exit polling. The grassroots will be able to collect data to enable the campaign to challenge fraudulent results. Let's face it, the MSM is not doing a very good job in accountability.

[Ron Paul + YouTube= Free]

I'm not sure how this Iphone or android app gets people to the polls. I'm not sure how it helps Ron Paul win. Exit polls by the oh, so trusted revpac? It's nice to know that they can make an app though.

Just like most things of this sort, it gets people moving away from things that are helpful, and toward things that are not helpful.

No one is arguing that you shouldn't shoot video of a vote count, or whatever. Keep the results. If the official campaign wants the results, send them to them. If watch the vote or revpac wants the results, hold on to the results.

Exactly. This app isn't useful unless it is only used to document the official/actual results. The problem isn't exit polls. The problem is verifying each final vote. Pushing for a policy of not throwing away the ballots after each vote sounds like a better plan.

How hard could it of been for the people in charge of counting the votes at each location to publicly post the results, put the ballots in a folder for safekeeping, and call em in to the headquarters? Most places had less than a hundred votes to count.

We don't need a exit polling/harassment app. We need a system that verifies and records the official final vote at each location.

[angelatc]

. We need a system that verifies and records the official final vote at each location.

Which is why Ron Paul told us to take over the GOP, which is yet another thing the 99% are apparently waiting for somebody else to do.

[jmdrake]

There's a difference between "error" and "fraud".

There were errors. A lot of errors. Way too many errors. An embarassing number of errors. A "Charlie Must Go" number of errors.

But errors aren't the same as fraud.

What happened in Somerset might be seen as fraud. What happened in Cumberland might be seen as fraud.

But leaving off most of Waldo, leaving off Waterville, that was comically sloppy error. But they fixed the error. I think what I'm looking at is people who are not good at their jobs. But I don't see fraud. I'm not saying it isn't there, but no one has come up with anything.

The campaign should have their own totals, from Ron Paul supporters calling them in, or emailing them, or the county coordinators. The numbers that the Ron Paul campaign has might be different from the Maine GOP totals. And they might be sitting on them for tactical reasons. But I see no evidence of that.

They didn't just "leave off" Waldo. Did you not even watch the OP video? The zeroed it out, then they tried to give Romney a majority of the votes when Ron Paul one the majority and Romney came in third! Come on dude! Sometimes a duck is a freaking duck. Remember this is the same GOP apparatus that tried not to count two of the caucuses even though one was postposed by the GOP itself. They are pulling out all stops legal, illegal or otherwise and we don't do ourselves any service minimizing the truth.