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    Does Radical Islam and their terrorism exist? If so, where's the proof? By Radical Islam I'm referring to Al Qaeda and the like.

    If it does exist, then isn't it a threat to our nation and to other nations around the world? And wouldn't it justify our country along with others to try to stop the radical islamic terrorism before they attack our nation and others?



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    There are many types of divisions of Islam; for example the fundamentalist Islam are only .01%, but the terrorist group is only 0.0000000001%. Islam should not be watched heavily because of that because their are always going to be groups of people that will destroy the meaning of something. The problem of how to find a terrorist is "what is a terrorist?"

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    All the honest intellectual work I've read on the topic says that terrorism is a political movement.
    The idea of "radical Islam" being responsible for the formation of groups like Al Queda is sheer farce.
    Even on the surface, if you look at public statements about why terrorists do what they do, they always cite political reasons why they're blowing themselves up.
    They are going through with it for religious reasons: they're using Islam as the excuse to commit suicide, because they believe they'll be rewarded - but their motivation is definitely not stamping out Christianity or the western way of life.

    The most disturbing thing is that the most radical institutionalized Islam out there - the one that locks the doors on burning schools because the girls were running out in the open uncovered (this actually happened) - is in Saudi Arabia, one of our publicly acknowledged best allies in the middle east.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Yes it exists , No , I am not scared of it , where is the root of much of it ? Same place your oil dollars go ( Saud ).What people should be scared of are all the liberties that will be stolen from you . The exchange rate is not acceptable.

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    All the honest intellectual work I've read on the topic says that terrorism is a political movement.
    Excellent point. The other point to be made in conjunction is that "militant Judeo-Christianity" is also a political movement, but its ideological base is theological. My point is that the US and its European cronies are the religious fanatics who are waging violence in the name of their religion, not Muslims.
    Last edited by furface; 02-15-2012 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furface View Post
    The other point to be made in conjunction is that "militant Judeo-Christianity" is also a political movement, but its ideological base is theological.
    True - rooted in the worship of the official god of America: the state-god. And reinforced with half-verses and out-of-context quotes from Scripture.

    (Augustine who? Aquinas who? Don't bring your papists and traditions into my state-god religion!)
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    So is this terrorism rooted in the US or Al Qaeda? Is Al Qaeda really trying to take down western culture and the US trying to stop terrorism from them?

    Also do you have reliable sources to prove your points about your beliefs regarding radical Islam

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    All the honest intellectual work I've read on the topic says that terrorism is a political movement.
    The 'man' won't let me +rep you again....so +rep you.
    If hostilities are not initiated by a state, then I believe they fall under the label of "criminal conspiracy". Does a criminal conspiracy allow for us to disregard another nation's sovereignty? Ask Woodrow Wilson and John Pershing.....

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    Woodrow Wilson , excellent .

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