Apple to Officially Build Computers in the U.S.
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Apple to Officially Build Computers in the U.S.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/benzinga...rs-in-the-u-s/
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I want world peace and to end starvation. APPLAUD ME!Originally Posted by jmdrake
Taken to an extreme, this is not true. Eventually, one can expect innovation and automation to completely eliminate jobs entirely.
exactly, because he is assuming automation always needs maintainence, deployment, and even if they do, they will always employ the same amount of people as the people that they put out of work and demand. At first, innovations and automations DO need lots of maintainence, repair and customer support, but that only lasts as long as 1) consumption is increasing 2) the quality of maintainence maintains, once it improves, repair jobs disappear too. Again, I have not once said unemployment is bad or employment is good.
I don't think that is the best way to think of things. Automation also opens up entirely new possibilities and with that, entirely new innovations and markets.
You know, there were a lot of people who thought the same thing as you, back when automobiles were replacing buggies.
"We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% the same on issues." "People Try To Drive Wedges Between Rand And Me." --Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=pB5JgzBVHN0
Do I get my question answered? Yes, I will agree that automation brings jobs with it, but do you disagree that not only do they bring in less than are replaced, but also, as quality of products increase, jobs decrease (due to lack of demand for repair and maintanence)?
So, I hope you can answer me, since you wanted to know if I was serious. What's wrong with unemployment if money were not the concern? Or what's good about employment if money were not the concern?
If we take it to the logical conclusion, we could pretty much just sit on our asses and let robots do everything for us. We could have 99% unemployment, and still have more wealth and standard of living than now.
yes, we can. Standard of living may or may not increase, standard of living is largely subjective. Some people value free time, some people value not working, some people value variety of foods and entertainment, some people value education and medical care.
No, because it frees those people up to do other things.
I'm not into Communism. But, thanks anyway.So, I hope you can answer me, since you wanted to know if I was serious. What's wrong with unemployment if money were not the concern? Or what's good about employment if money were not the concern?
"We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% the same on issues." "People Try To Drive Wedges Between Rand And Me." --Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=pB5JgzBVHN0
Contradiction? Frees people to do other things doesn't mean they WILL be employed, just that they CAN. I'm not the one who says there's anything wrong with unemployment, unemployment is exactly that : FREES PEOPLE TO DO OTHER THINGS, not necessarily payable jobs or productive things. So again, what's wrong with unemployment or what's right with employment?
Are you basically telling me jobs lost by automation is good, but jobs lost by offshoring is bad? There are good kinds of unemployment as well as bad kinds? Why isn't unemployment by outsourcing/offshoring "freeing people to do other things"?
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