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Thread: Anarchy Draws Near as Greece Flirts With Default

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    If Greece collapses, you'll get to see how "wonderful" Anarchy is.

    Also, you'll get to see how quickly Anarchy turns into a Dictatorship.
    Your simply defining anarchy as complete chaos, are you not? What I see happening in Greece is political people vying for political power. Greece is nearly 100% socialists, so how in the HELL could anarchists possibly take over as you are saying?

    Right now there is hardly a place in the world that has the potential to collapse into anarchy.

    Anarchy is something that has to exist where there are people with a philosophy of anarchism. Do you understand that? Now show me the groups in Greece who specifically have an anarchist philosophy.

    This is nothing but propaganda for those reasons I've just outline, and you should be careful not to swallow state propaganda like that. Even New Hampshire, with the highest population of people who would consider them selves in support of a government free solution, still only has a tiny number of anarchists (a minority even within the Free State Project).

    Given those kind of numbers, I'm embarrassed for anyone who laughably says that an anarchy is being set up in Greece. Laughable and wrong. If anarchy is defined as complete chaos, then sure. If anarchy is defined of a group of people with anarchist philosophy, then not even remotely close to being remotely correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruthhurtsthefed View Post
    Well when you are tricked by lobbyists and forced by big banks is it really their fault? As for Greece having "serious problems history shows that", does that imply that its wrong when the people see that their government is not working in their best interest and the people protest? Here in Greece people have the power unlike the west and britain where tails are tucked between their legs and they bow to whatever the government orders. Only now the government is scrambling to appease the Banking overlords and its citizens simultaneously......it can't happen
    Just because this is an American forum does not mean that only Americans read it.You can tell them this fairy tales but why don't you tell them the truth.

    Greece 30-40 years ago was a village.You borrowed and borrowed like there is no tomorrow ( I will not even mention all the grants the EU gave you and USA money for their bases in Greece until the USSR fell apart and the bases were moved).

    You lived like x10 beyond your means and now the time is up to pay.Although I do not approve of what the Bankers are doing to you at the moment,if you did what should have happened and that is to go bankrupt then the EU would have had no other option except to come and take the money by force.And if you do not do what the bankers say they will come and take the money by force.

    If you think that there is a scenario where you just walk away is beyond fantasy.You have 2 options either you will be slaves to the IMF or the IMF will come and take the money as they did in Libya ( this scenario is already in play by demonizing you in front of the European and international community as lazy and arrogant,also you burning German flags does not really help you).

    And don't give me that the politicians took all the money cause you just lost the 13 and 14 salary with the new deal.You got bonuses for knowing a second language and having computer skills and my favorite TO HEAT YOUR CARS IN THE WINTER.Why didn't you protest when you received 1500+ euro salary's with a minimum of 700 although you did not produce anything ? while your entire region had an average of 300-400
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesTX View Post
    Withdrawal symptoms from weening people off their addiction to credit.
    "Free" money is probably the worst addiction to behold. It's effects are slow but potent; strong enough to ruin nations that can't break the habit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    If Greece collapses, you'll get to see how "wonderful" Anarchy is.

    Also, you'll get to see how quickly Anarchy turns into a Dictatorship.
    That ^ Anarchy is a vacuum - and something always fills a vacuum.
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    Bump
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    Quote Originally Posted by qh4dotcom View Post
    Isn't the Fed going to secretly bail out Greece?
    No. It's collection time.
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    How many civilizations have come and gone? I bet everyone thought it would last forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mczerone View Post
    Chaos draws near as the inevitable effects of statism are played out. Anarchy, asked to comment, replied "I don't have anything to do with this."
    Haha, my sediments exactly!

    Hopefully the majority of the citizens there are well versed in austrian economics and are fans of Rothbard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    That ^ Anarchy is a vacuum - and something always fills a vacuum.
    Total BS. This has nothing to do with anarchy. Anarchy means "no ruler".

    Chaos is taking place in Greece, not anarchy.

    If there were no state, there would be no "vacuum" to take over. It's all in everyone's minds. If we agree that we do not own ourselves, that others can rule over us, then this cycle of violence will never end.

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    Did anyone hear about the buildings the Greeks were burning down in Athens? So, they get a bailout and then burn buildings? Is all the bailout money going to go to rebuilding those buildings? Sounds like a winning economic formula to me!

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