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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I didn't know he was a vet. While this doesn't negate what he did, I have to wonder what effect the war might have had on him? He'd very well may have seen "checkpoint shootings" with the tragedy level going both ways.
    Yeah, that was my thought as well. You have to wonder if his "training" and experience in Iraq or Afghanistan came back with him to be used here. A reflex action. Another reason why Officers need to be carefully screened before being hired.
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    Hold your excitement people. When all else fails, accuse the Jury of misconduct!

    The conviction of a former Culpeper police officer could be thrown out just 24 hours after jurors convicted him of murder. Daniel Harmon-Wright was found guilty on three counts in the 2012 shooting death of Patricia Cook.

    With his head hung low and his hands and feet in shackles, Harmon-Wright was brought into court for what was supposed to be his sentencing hearing after being convicted Tuesday of manslaughter. Instead, it was the jurors under oath after it was discovered two dictionaries and one thesaurus were brought into the jury room during deliberations, a violation of the judge’s rules.

    Six jurors admitted to looking up definitions of at least one of these words: "malice," "malicious," or "unlawful."

    Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01...day-84648.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    http://www.dailyprogress.com/starexp...a4bcf6878.html


    Daniel Harmon-Wright guilty of voluntary manslaughter
    I dont think Ive ever read such a sympathetic article for someone who needlessly killed another person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Hold your excitement people. When all else fails, accuse the Jury of misconduct!
    So a judge "instructs" a jury they cannot look up a word to be certain of its meaning?

    It means what it says we mean Mundane, now shut the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I have not seen any evidence of leniency by the "Just-Us" system regarding veterans accused of a capitol crime unless they're a member of the law enforcement community.

    This behavior alone is discriminatory.

    I would like to see any LEO accused of a crime actually stand in front of a prosecutor/judge and jury that were not part and party to the LEO's daily activities..

    This is only one isolated instance of a cop actually being prosecuted, there are thousands of crimes committed by LEO's that should be prosecuted but will never see the light of day due to the inherent cronyism of the "Just-Us" system...
    Most of the DAs, Gov paid defense lawyers, Bailiffs, LEOs, and Judges are golfing buddies... It's a tightly-knitted community and as previously stated, it truly has become in America, the: "JUST US SYSTEM".
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    Most of the DAs, Gov paid defense lawyers, Bailiffs, LEOs, and Judges are golfing buddies... It's a tightly-knitted community and as previously stated, it truly has become in America, the: "JUST US SYSTEM".

    Because...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Because...

    "If only half of those motherfuckers in the state's attorney 's office didn't want to be judges, didn't want to be partners in some downtown law firm, if half of them had the fucking balls to follow through, you know what would happen? A guy like that would be indicted, tried and convicted. But no, everybody stays friends. Everybody gets paid. And everybody's got a fucking future."
    When a "public servants" pay is not regularly voted on and amended by the actual public that is supposedly represented then the servant is the master...

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    Ahh yes, clearly guilty of murder, managed to get convicted of voluntary manslaughter, and STILL going to get off because someone was offended that people wanted to know the clear definition of 'malice' when deciding between manslaughter and murder.

    Serve the Defense Attorney right if they said "Ok, we'll vacate manslaughter and replace it with murder!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Ain't much there. You'd be bored to death. Unless you wanted to take courses at Liberty University. Which would still pretty much bore you to death.
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    3 years.

    Forgot to update this one.


    Daniel Harmon-Wright sentenced to 3 years
    May 2, 2013 - 03:11 pm

    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/05...ars-87338.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Ain't much there. You'd be bored to death. Unless you wanted to take courses at Liberty University. Which would still pretty much bore you to death.
    I'd be curious to hear from some of the vocal Christians here as to their opinion of that college. I don't know enough about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Harmon-Wright, a former U.S. Marine, who served a tour in Iraq, covered his face with his hands as the verdict was read, and one female juror wiped away tears. The former Culpeper Police Officer was then handcuffed and escorted by three Culpeper County Sheriff's bailiffs to the Culpeper County Jail, adjacent to the courthouse.

    I didn't know he was a vet. While this doesn't negate what he did, I have to wonder what effect the war might have had on him? He'd very well may have seen "checkpoint shootings" with the tragedy level going both ways.
    Doesn't that almost make it worse? Killing people is still disgusting even when done in uniform, whether military or police.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    Not likely, being a former cop he will get protective custody and special treatment in prison. And -- more than likely -- the lightest possible sentence. The JustUs system takes care of their own ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    3 years.

    Forgot to update this one.


    Daniel Harmon-Wright sentenced to 3 years
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    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/05...ars-87338.html
    Wow. Drunk drivers get more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I'd be curious to hear from some of the vocal Christians here as to their opinion of that college. I don't know enough about it.
    I don't know much about it either, but recently there was a student from here who was attending Liberty University who (allegedly) lured a campus cop into his dorm room and attacked him with a hammer -- and he ended up being shot and killed.

    I kind of wonder if hearing about stories like this (the teacher) or others involving cops behaving badly maybe drove him to do that? Or maybe he had a bad personal experience with the police ? Or maybe he was just a cop killing thug -- but I can't imagine your average straight-arrow Christian university-type wanting to attack a cop for no reason ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly123069 View Post
    Admin's plz put this story where ever you think it belongs. 2 sides of the story here. I'm kind of biased myself. The 54yo unarmed woman kind of made it so. It's just another disgusting example law enforcement members not living up to the oath they took. More to write my congressman about, city council members, county board members, etc.
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    Un-fucking-believable.

    Ms. Patricia A. Cook had the right to keep her window closed after providing her DL and proof of insurance.

    But even if she did not provide those items the penalty is not death.

    Police officers are pissed of because of the Salinas v. Texas case and are determined to force us to waive our Miranda rights.

    Now you see why Russians insist on having dash cams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Un-fucking-believable.

    Ms. Patricia A. Cook had the right to keep her window closed after providing her DL and proof of insurance.

    But even if she did not provide those items the penalty is not death.

    Police officers are pissed of because of the Salinas v. Texas case and are determined to force us to waive our Miranda rights.

    Now you see why Russians insist on having dash cams.

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    Actually, she didn't have to provide them at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Actually, she didn't have to provide them at all.

    Please elaborate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Please elaborate.
    Cop had no probable cause. Read this thread from the start and you'll find a more detailed answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Actually, she didn't have to provide them at all.
    Here in Texas we do.

    Do you have a link supporting your assertion?

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    Free people don't have to give papers.
    “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czolgosz;534258[B
    3]Free people don't have to give papers.
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    The operative word is FREE, but we live in a police state.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    I don't know much about it either, but recently there was a student from here who was attending Liberty University who (allegedly) lured a campus cop into his dorm room and attacked him with a hammer -- and he ended up being shot and killed.

    I kind of wonder if hearing about stories like this (the teacher) or others involving cops behaving badly maybe drove him to do that? Or maybe he had a bad personal experience with the police ? Or maybe he was just a cop killing thug -- but I can't imagine your average straight-arrow Christian university-type wanting to attack a cop for no reason ...

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    Maybe I'm misreading your thoughts, so do you see your mental conundrum and it's resolution? (Just in case my question is misinterpreted, no, I'm not being degrading)
    “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

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