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Utah 6/26/12 0.4%
Utah was the final state to vote.
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Google chart link http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?c...0,100&chtm=usa
Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest by color:
Red 5% to 3% (NH)
Orange 2.9% to 2% (VT MT)
Yellow 1.9% to 1% (SC WI IN VA MI NC OH NE)
Light Green 0.9% to 0.5% (OR IA PA SC TN OK AR TX IL WV AL FL GA AZ MA KY ID MO NM)
Green less than 0.5% (ND AK MS CA MD UT DE RI NJ MN LA NV CT WA CO ME HI NY KS WY)
Sources:
Type "population of XXX" into Google to see the population source used for the states. Results quickly pop up from http://www.google.com/publicdata -- Source: U.S. Census Bureau
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results...tial_primaries for the vote results
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I really started to think about the numbers and I noticed that a much larger percentage of the total state population voted for Ron Paul in New Hampshire in 2012 than in most other states. NH did this despite not having an open primary where all voters are allowed to vote in a Republican primary. In NH, only Republican and undeclared voters could vote in the Republican primary. In the 7 next best states (VT, MT, SC, WI, IN, VA, MI) all voters (even Democrats) were allowed to vote in the Republican primary. Lots and lots of Democrats did vote in Republican primaries.
In fact, the next highest state in the same category as NH was NC where 1.1% of the population voted for Ron Paul. Ron Paul received about 4 times as many votes as a percentage of the state population in NH as he did NC did.
Are there 4 times as many Ron Paul supporters as a percentage of the population in NH than in any other state? I don't know but it is something to think about.
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Last edited by Keith and stuff; 07-04-2012 at 06:49 PM.
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Oh cool, the information put together in this thread also made the front page of the online edition of the Independence Day edition (today's) of the Union Leader, the NH state paper. We saw the research first, as it was being gathered and put together
Union Leader
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...TION/120709862
and
NewHampshire.com
http://www.newhampshire.com/article/...TION/120709862
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If Rand Paul runs in 2016, how will this information change? Will New Hampshire still be at the top? What about VT, MT and SC? What percentage of the population in Kentucky will vote for Rand Paul? Will Rand Paul do better in Texas than Ron Paul did?
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Good questions.
I certainly figure Rand to do better down south, at least until the government propaganda organs get into full cry after him.
Shamity already fired a warning shot across his bow by endorsing Cheney over Enzi.
The South is death for any peace/non interventionist candidate.
Wyoming still didn't have a popular vote in 2012. The process was exactly the same in 2008 and 2012: County conventions decided delegates, and most or all of the conventions also had a totally non-binding straw poll.
Wyoming sent a couple RP people to Tampa. So we did pretty well in that sense. I do like what you've done here (even if the reason is just to transparently serve your agenda ) and there's a benefit to knowing how many people voted for Ron, or at least it's interesting. But in the state of Wyoming, there is no real (binding) vote for Presidential nominee. A couple-few thousand GOP precinct leaders get together and vote on delegates to conventions. That's it.
The different processes -- caucus/convention vs. primary -- are just too different to be able to compare across them and say "this state is more Ron Paul-loving than this state".
You are right. Thanks. The WY process is still extremely backwards. I'm not a fan of the HI process either.
The people were more likely to vote in primaries than caucuses. I broke it down in many different ways, though. If you want it broken down in another way, please let me know. If you do the math, I'll add it to the 1st or 2nd post.
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It depends on who he is running against I bet. Having visited family recently, my uncle was talking politics and 2016, and he never once mentioned Rand's name. He is a Fox News watcher, and will vote according to who Fox News tells him is/isn't evil 24/7 in 2016. He is your typical Republican voter, and if/when (I think) Fox News pundits declare Rand Paul to be the same as Ron Paul, he will lose. Some say it won't happen, but considering the media tanked Ron Paul's campaign in 2012 on an issue from the early 90s, little will surprise me.
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