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    Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in 2012 compared

    Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest (and the 2008 percentage):
    1. New Hampshire 4.3% (1.4%)
    2. Vermont 2.4% (0.4%)
    3. Montana 2% (1.7%)
    4. South Carolina 1.7% (0.4%)
    5. Wisconsin 1.5% (0.3%)
    6. Indiana 1.5% (0.5%)
    7. Virginia 1.3% (0.3%)
    8. Michigan 1.2% (0.6%)
    9. North Carolina 1.1% (0.4%)
    10. Ohio 1% (0.5%)
    11. Nebraska 1% (1%)
    12. Oregon 0.9% (1.3%)
    13. Iowa 0.9% (0.4%)
    14. Pennsylvania 0.8% (1%)
    15. South Dakota 0.8% (1.2%)
    16. Tennessee 0.8% (0.5%)
    17. Oklahoma 0.7% (0.3%)
    18. Arkansas 0.7% (0.4%)
    19. Texas 0.7% (0.3%)
    20. Illinois 0.7% (0.4%)
    21. West Virgina 0.7% (0.3%)
    22. Alabama 0.6% (0.3%)
    23. Florida 0.6% (0.3%)
    24. Georgia 0.6% (0.3%)
    25. Arizona 0.6% (0.4%)
    26. Massachusetts 0.5% (0.2%)
    27. Kentucky 0.5% (0.3%)
    28. Idaho 0.5% (1.9%)
    29. Missouri 0.5% (0.4%)
    30. New Mexico 0.5% (0.8%)
    31. North Dakota 0.4% (0.3%)
    32. Alaska 0.4% (0.3%)
    33. Mississippi 0.4% (0.2%)
    34. California 0.4% (0.3%)
    35. Maryland 0.4% (0.3%)
    36. Utah 0.4% (0.3%)
    37. Delaware 0.3% (0.2%)
    38. Rhode Island 0.3% (0.2%)
    39. New Jersey 0.3% (0.3%)
    40. Minnesota 0.2% (0.2%)
    41. Louisiana 0.2% (0.2%)
    42. Nevada 0.2% (0.2%)
    43. Connecticut 0.2% (0.2%)
    44. Washington 0.2% (0.6%)
    45. Colorado 0.2% (0.1%)
    46. Maine 0.2% (0.08%)
    47. Hawaii 0.1% (No popular vote)
    48. New York 0.1% (0.2%)
    49. Kansas 0.1% (0.08%)
    United States Virgin Islands 0.1% (0.01%)
    50. Wyoming 0.1% (No popular vote)
    Washington D.C. 0.09% (0.08%)
    Northern Mariana Islands 0.05% (0.01%)
    Puerto Rico 0.04% (0.0002%)

    Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, listed in chronological order:
    Iowa 1/3/12 0.9% (.8620)
    New Hampshire 1/10/12 4.3%
    South Carolina 1/21/12 1.7%
    Florida 1/21/12 0.6%
    Nevada 2/4/12 0.2% (.2267)
    Missouri 2/7/12 0.5% (.5097)
    Minnesota 2/7/12 0.2% (.2474)
    Colorado 2/7/12 0.2% (.1516)
    Maine 2/11/12 0.2% (.17)
    Michigan 2/28/12 1.2%
    Arizona 2/28/12 0.6%
    Wyoming 2/29/12 0.08%
    Washington 3/3/12 0.2% (.1852)
    Vermont 3/6/12 2.4%
    Virginia 3/6/12 1.3%
    Ohio 3/6/12 1%
    Tennessee 3/6/12 0.8% (.7777)
    Oklahoma 3/6/12 0.7% (.7272)
    Georgia 3/6/12 0.6% (.6007)
    Massachusetts 3/6/12 0.5% (.5318)
    Idaho 3/6/12 0.5% (.5101)
    Alaska 3/6/12 0.4% (.4393)
    North Dakota 3/6/12 0.4% (.4295)
    Kansas 3/10/12 0.1% (.1311)
    United States Virgin Islands 3/10/12 0.1% (.1020)
    Northern Mariana Islands 3/10/12 0.05%
    Alabama 3/13/12 0.6% (.6381)
    Mississippi 3/13/12 0.4% (.4196)
    Hawaii 3/13/12 0.1% (.1436)
    Puerto Rico 3/18/12 0.04%
    Illinois 3/20/12 0.7% (.6682)
    Louisiana 3/24/12 0.2% (.2497)
    Wisconsin 4/3/12 1.5% (1.538)
    Maryland 4/3/12 0.4% (.3860)
    Washington D.C. 4/3/12 0.09% (.0865)
    Pennsylvania 4/24/12 0.8% (.8302)
    Delaware 4/24/12 0.3% (.3325)
    Rhode Island 4/24/12 0.3% (.3293)
    Connecticut 4/24/12 0.2% (.2238)
    New York 4/24/12 0.1% (.1341)
    Indiana 5/8/12 1.5% (1.528)
    North Carolina 5/8/12 1.1% (1.109)
    West Virgina 5/8/12 0.7% (.6609)
    Nebraska 5/15/12 1.0% (.9876)
    Oregon 5/15/12 0.9% (.9323)
    Arkansas 5/22/12 0.7% (.6898)
    Kentucky 5/22/12 0.5% (.5045)
    Texas 5/29/12 0.7% (.6730)
    Montana 6/5/12 2% (2.002)
    South Dakota 6/5/12 0.8% (.8135)
    New Mexico 6/5/12 0.5% (.4559)
    California 6/5/12 0.4% (.3923)
    New Jersey 6/5/12 0.3% (.2720)
    Utah 6/26/12 0.4% (.3685)

    Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul, listed by how easy it is to vote in state primary:
    Everyone Allowed to Vote
    Vermont 2.4%
    Montana 2%
    South Carolina 1.7%
    Wisconsin 1.5%
    Indiana 1.5%
    Virginia 1.3%
    Michigan 1.2%
    Ohio 1%
    Tennessee 0.8%
    Arkansas 0.7%
    Texas 0.7%
    Illinois 0.7%
    Alabama 0.6%
    Georgia 0.6%
    Missouri 0.5%
    Mississippi 0.4%
    Puerto Rico 0.04%

    GOP and Undeclared or Unenrolled (Independents) Allowed to Vote
    New Hampshire 4.3%
    North Carolina 1.1%
    West Virgina 0.7%
    Massachusetts 0.5%
    Rhode Island 0.3%

    GOP Allowed to Vote
    Nebraska 1%
    Oregon 0.9%
    Pennsylvania 0.8%
    South Dakota 0.8%
    Oklahoma 0.7%
    Florida GOP 0.6%
    Arizona 0.6%
    Kentucky 0.5%
    New Mexico 0.5%
    California 0.4%
    Maryland 0.4%
    Utah 0.4%
    Delaware 0.3%
    New Jersey 0.3%
    Louisiana 0.2%
    Connecticut 0.2%
    New York 0.1%
    Washington D.C. 0.09%

    Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul, listed by how easy it is to vote in state caucus:
    Everyone Allowed to Vote
    North Dakota 0.4%
    Minnesota 0.2%
    Washington 0.2%

    GOP and Undeclared or Unenrolled (Independents) Allowed to Vote
    Maine 0.2%
    Hawaii 0.1%

    GOP Allowed to Vote
    Iowa 0.9%
    Idaho 0.5%
    Alaska 0.4%
    Nevada 0.2%
    Colorado 0.2%
    Kansas 0.1%
    United States Virgin Islands 0.1%
    Wyoming 0.1%
    Northern Mariana Islands 0.04%

    Google chart link http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?c...0,100&chtm=usa

    Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest by color:
    Red 5% to 3% (NH)
    Orange 2.9% to 2% (VT MT)
    Yellow 1.9% to 1% (SC WI IN VA MI NC OH NE)
    Light Green 0.9% to 0.5% (OR IA PA SC TN OK AR TX IL WV AL FL GA AZ MA KY ID MO NM)
    Green less than 0.5% (ND AK MS CA MD UT DE RI NJ MN LA NV CT WA CO ME HI NY KS WY)

    Sources:
    Type "population of XXX" into Google to see the population source used for the states. Results quickly pop up from http://www.google.com/publicdata -- Source: U.S. Census Bureau
    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results...tial_primaries for the vote results
    See http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ng-Information for information on about how easy it is to vote in a primary or caucus
    See http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post4165019 for 2008 percentages
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    Michigan 2/28/12 1.2%
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    Nice work. It may also be helpful to know the percentage of votes as it relates to the 2008 general election vote total.

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    Arizona 2/28/12 0.6%
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    Wyoming 2/29/12 0.08%

    Wyoming didn't have a popular vote in 2008 so these numbers shouldn't be looked down on. This is progress.
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    Ron Paul won Detroit, MI. Here is a look at Detroit, just for fun.

    Detroit voting results:
    Paul 5,525
    Santorum 4,047
    Romney 1,338
    Gingrich?
    Obama 32,980 (in the Democratic Primary)

    Estimated population of Detroit:
    713777

    Percentage of the population that voted for Ron Paul in Detroit:
    0.8%

    Percentage of the population that voted for Obama in Detroit:
    4.6%

    Interestingly enough, if you combined the percentage of the population that voted for Ron Paul in the NH GOP Primary (4.3%) and the NH Democratic Primary (0.2%), it is still lower than Obama did in Detroit. Obama is very popular in Detroit.

    If you look at MI as a whole, 1.8% of the population voted for Obama.

    Percentage of total state or city population voting for:
    4.6% Obama in Detroit (Obama came in 1st)
    4.5% Paul in NH (Paul came in 2nd in both the GOP and Democratic Primaries)
    4.2% Romney in MI (Romney came in 1st)
    1.8% Obama in MI (Obama came in 1st)
    1.7% Paul in SC (Paul came in 4th)
    1.2% Paul in MI (Paul came in 3rd)
    1.0% Paul in OH (Paul came in 4th)
    0.8% Paul in Detroit (Paul came in 1st)
    0.2% Romney in Detroit (Romney came in 3rd)
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    Washington 3/3/12 0.2%
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    Virginia 3/6/12 1.3%

    Keep in mind that only 2 candidates were on the ballot in VA, the Republican Primary was open and there was not a Democratic Primary. VA was the only state in the US with only two choices. Because of these factors, all other things being equal, VA should have been Ron Paul's best Primary state and perhaps his best state.
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    North Dakota 3/6/12 0.4%
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    Tennessee 3/6/12 0.8%
    Oklahoma 3/6/12 0.7%
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    Whats the point of this thread?
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    Ohio 3/6/12 1%
    Georgia 3/6/12 0.6%
    Massachusetts 3/6/12 0.5%
    Alaska 3/6/12 0.4%
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Whats the point of this thread?
    I find the numbers extraordinarily interesting

    The point is to compare the percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in various states. If the number is relatively high in a state, perhaps a relatively larger percentage of the population in that state is aware and in agreement with Paul's message. If the number is relatively low in a state, perhaps a relatively smaller percentage of the population in that state is aware and in agreement with Paul's message. I listed it by date to show how the number changes over time. I broke it down by primary and caucus states. I further broke it down by which type of people are able to vote in each state.

    I'll do a comparison example.

    Everyone Allowed to Vote
    Washington 0.2%
    GOP Allowed to Vote
    Alaska 0.4%

    Every voter was allowed to vote for Paul in Washington. Only Republican voters were allowed to vote for Paul in Alaska. However, twice the percentage of the population vote for Paul in Alaska, even though only Republicans were able to vote for him. Keep in mind that the Paul campaign focused much more on WA than AK. Perhaps, a higher percentage of people are awake to Paul's message in AK. At the very least, a higher percentage of people, from a much smaller poll of voters (only Republicans) voted for Paul in AK.
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    Interesting. I did not realize the percentage of total population voting for Ron was so small.
    This is actually sad.
    It is hard to find any patterns, because there are so many different factors in each state, besides the ones you listed, like % religious or amount spent on ads, etc.
    But thanks for posting this!

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    Vermont 3/6/12 2.4%

    Vermont is the state with the 2nd highest percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul. Typically, the turnout is higher in the earlier states. That is true this year for most states. For example, SC has the 3rd highest turnout for Paul and IA has the highest turnout for Paul among the caucus states. However, the Republican Primary turnout was very high in Vermont, compared to 2008. Much of that turnout is 2008 Democratic Primary voters switching to the Republican Primary this time. In fact, exit polls show that only 49% of the Vermont Republican Primary voters were Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa100 View Post
    Interesting. I did not realize the percentage of total population voting for Ron was so small.
    This is actually sad.
    Its actually not sad. It is however irrelevant.

    Just take ND for example. The state population is around 680,000 and only about 10,000 total votes were cast in the primary.

    So?

    Let me save the OP some time. Its ALWAYS going to be a tiny %.

    I also want my 30 seconds back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Let me save the OP some time. Its ALWAYS going to be a tiny %.

    I also want my 30 seconds back.
    I'm sorry that you don't enjoy statistics or comparing states. I'm sorry that you don't enjoy learning how well Ron Paul's message has reached the people of the various states.

    I didn't do this to make Ron Paul look bad. I did it to compare the states and show how well Ron Paul is doing. To that, I'm not just doing Ron Paul. I also did Obama and Romney, for example. Additionally, I included explanations and examples from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    I'm sorry that you don't enjoy statistics or comparing states. I'm sorry that you don't enjoy learning how well Ron Paul's message has reached the people of the various states.

    I didn't do this to make Ron Paul look bad. I did it to compare the states and show how well Ron Paul is doing. To that, I'm not just doing Ron Paul. I also did Obama and Romney, for example. Additionally, I included explanations and examples from time to time.
    Ok but wouldnt it be more relevant to do it as a % of total votes cast which would be the actual voting results...

    Your analysis, IMO, seems to miss some obvious factors (unless you've covered it previously). For example, how many people in the state are eligible to vote? Then one would ask of those people, how many are actually registered? That leads to how many of those registered people are able to vote based on open/closed primary rules etc.

    The number of votes cast in a primary/caucus are TINY compared to the state's entire population. Just look at ND, 683,000 people in the state and 10,000 voted in the primary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    Vermont 3/6/12 2.4%
    Vermont is the state with the 2nd highest percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul. Typically, the turnout is higher in the earlier state. That is true this year for most states. For example, SC has the 3rd highest turnout for Paul and IA has the highest turnout for Paul among the caucus states. However, the Republican Primary turnout was very high in Vermont, compared to 2008. Much of that turnout is 2008 Democratic Primary voters switching to the Republican Primary this time.
    That's probably true but the Democrats made a concerted effort (egged on by DailyKOS) to vote for Rick Santorum.

    Forty-one percent GOP primary voters in the state described themselves as Independents, vastly higher than the 23 percent of independents voting in the state’s open primary in 2008. And this year 40 percent of those independent voters supported Ron Paul, versus 28 percent for next-state neighbor Romney.

    ^^^This is one of the best analysis I've seen on VT yet. Read the whole thing.


    And also, the crossover vote was some protest vote from folks wanting to send an anti-war message, but we have strong and real support from former Obama voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Ok but wouldnt it be more relevant to do it as a % of total votes cast which would be the actual voting results...
    That has already been done, obviously. I wanted to compare them in a different way.

    Your analysis, IMO, seems to miss some obvious factors (unless you've covered it previously). For example, how many people in the state are eligible to vote? Then one would ask of those people, how many are actually registered? That leads to how many of those registered people are able to vote based on open/closed primary rules etc.
    The number of people eligible to vote is of no relation to what I am comparing. The percentage of the population eligible to vote, is arguably related, but I disagree with that. In some states, felons aren't allowed to vote. The states with decent laws in that respect (of course, felons should be able to vote), shouldn't be punished because certain other states have a bad law.

    What is relevant is the percentage of the population over 17 or whatever the voting age is in the various states. Feel free to come up with that info. You can start a new thread or post it here.

    For what I am looking at voting age people registered vs. voting age people unregistered doesn't matter. As I explained, I'm trying to see what percentage of the population in the various states is aware of and in agreement with Paul's message. It is true that some people may be aware of and in agreement with Paul's message and not actually vote for Paul because they are very lazy people. If the people don't have the energy to register to vote and vote, I really am not concerned with them. I am not a babysitter.

    Perhaps they are anarchists that don't vote. I understand that may hurt NH more than most states in these results as NH is known for having a large, nonvoting pro-liberty anarchist population compared to other state, per capita. However, NH still did best so it seems to not have hurt NH very much, compared to the other states. It seems to be either a non factor or a factor so small it doesn't make a noticeable difference in the big picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLightShining View Post
    That's probably true but the Democrats made a concerted effort (egged on by DailyKOS) to vote for Rick Santorum.
    From the article you posted, I thought this was interesting.

    Two other factors worked in Romney’s favor: “Very” conservative voters, a group in which he’s struggled, made up 18 percent of the voters in Vermont, their lowest share in any state to date. And 27 percent of Vermont voters were evangelicals, another more difficult group for Romney – fewer than anywhere but New Hampshire.
    In VT, Democrats made efforts to vote for Ron Paul or Rick Santorum. When I was at the polling place, a Democrat came up to me asking who to vote for to screw Romney. Of course, I was holding a Paul sign. Paul came in 2nd in neighboring NH, and also in near-by ME. He also came in 2nd in the WA caucus, which was the most recent race.

    http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/vt

    Vote by Party ID
    Democrat
    Paul 42%
    Santorum 26%

    Vote by Party ID
    Independent (most Independents in VT lean Democrat)
    Paul 38%
    Santorum 21%

    Vote by Ideology
    Moderate or Liberal
    Paul 34%
    Santorum 21%

    Opinion of Tea Party Movement
    Strongly Oppose
    Paul 46%
    Santorum 23%

    Abortion Should Be...
    Always Legal
    Paul 37%
    Santorum 20%
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    I organized northern Vermont. I know what I'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLightShining View Post
    I organized northern Vermont. I know what I'm talking about.
    Thank you. Did you see any of the NH campaign staff up there? The person that organized southern VT lived in NH, over an hour from the NH/VT border.
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    VT grassroots helped out a lot in Coos county and Littleton. I took on Lancaster as a town captain and made sure there were at least 2 Vermonters (but some days upwards of 6 of us) on the ground there. A couple we worked with in Littleton spent a couple days canvassing with us. We also had two more from Lancaster take on two towns as town captains. I also kept in touch with Norman T who was hired back on by the campaign about 9 days before the primary. He helped with phone calling and helped find people to man a few polling stations Jared kindly drove a suburban full of signs over from NH and I guess he bounced around on primary day. Aside from that no, there was no campaign staff visible.

    We had nowhere near the support that was had in NH. Not complaining at all. But I'm proud of what the grassroots did here. We got 4 delegates, made Romney spend money here he wasn't expecting to need to, held him back from 50%, beat Rick Santorum and quadrupled our numbers from 08. 53 towns in VT were won by Ron Paul. You can try all you want to dismiss those wins based on your experience in Brattleboro but it doesn't hold water. Certain areas are more libertarian than you'd think. And there are some people left on the left that are anti-war and anti-fascist. We reached out to them and they joined us.



    From what I understand the gentleman from NH that "organized" southern Vermont (we did need help there, so thanks!) came in to VT, started his own meetup and refused to communicate with us in our already effective and organized meetup. This created a gap in communication between him and the rest of the statewide grassroots network. I had my hands full in the NEK and Lamoille County.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLightShining View Post
    VT grassroots helped out a lot in Coos county and Littleton. I took on Lancaster as a town captain and made sure there were at least 2 Vermonters (but some days upwards of 6 of us) on the ground there. A couple we worked with in Littleton spent a couple days canvassing with us. We also had two more from Lancaster take on two towns as town captains. I also kept in touch with Norman T who was hired back on by the campaign about 9 days before the primary. He helped with phone calling and helped find people to man a few polling stations Jared kindly drove a suburban full of signs over from NH and I guess he bounced around on primary day. Aside from that no, there was no campaign staff visible.
    That's awesome. Paul wouldn't have done so well in NH if it wasn't for volunteers from VT, MA NY and so on helping out. NH is by far the most competitive state in the US and we needed all of the help we could get. Thank you to all of the Vermonters that helped out in the NH North Country. That was Paul's best region in NH. The big NH office was in Concord. I know the grassroots went up to the North County, had newspaper ads but I'm not even sure if the campaign did anything up there, other than makes a ton of phone calls. Paul did mention that he wouldn't approve Northern Pass, a major issue in the North County and the media spread his opinion on that up there. Norman is awesome. It is great having state Reps. helping Paul.

    Certain areas are more libertarian than you'd think. And there are some people left on the left that are anti-war and anti-fascist. We reached out to them and they joined us.
    That strategy makes sense in VT. Most of Paul's voters in VT likely came from Democratic leaning individuals. I agree that there are a lot of anti-war type people in VT. A couple of us at my polling place would sometimes mention that to people as they entered the polls.

    From what I understand the gentleman from NH that "organized" southern Vermont (we did need help there, so thanks!) came in to VT, started his own meetup and refused to communicate with us in our already effective and organized meetup.
    I don't know anything about that but it may be a different NH person you are talking about. The guy that the campaign (the NH campaign staff organized in ME and VT for Ron Paul, though on a much, much smaller scale than in NH) had do southern VT that I'm talking about only did the 2 southern counties in VT. He didn't seem like the type of person to start a meetup group. I learned about him from the campaign chair in my county. Regardless, it makes sense the that campaign people and the grassroots people organize some things separately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    That's awesome. Paul wouldn't have done so well in NH if it wasn't for volunteers from VT, MA NY and so on helping out. NH is by far the most competitive state in the US and we needed all of the help we could get. Thank you to all of the Vermonters that helped out in the NH North Country. That was Paul's best region in NH. The big NH office was in Concord. I know the grassroots went up to the North County, had newspaper ads but I'm not even sure if the campaign did anything up there, other than makes a ton of phone calls. Paul did mention that he wouldn't approve Northern Pass, a major issue in the North County and the media spread his opinion on that up there. Norman is awesome. It is great having state Reps. helping Paul.
    We had a specific strategy in Coos/northern Grafton counties that focused on canvassing and poll watching. We were actually advised on our pre-primary conf call by the campaign NOT to watch the polls but to stay home and make calls. We said thanks, you can get off now and we'll talk to you in a couple days. Coos county was covered at the polls, we watched the votes and we had lists to make sure our people who didn't make it in to vote got phone calls before the polls closed. Wish we had enough time to put together the troops we needed to do that in VT but that doesn't mean it can't be improved on elsewhere.



    That strategy makes sense in VT. Most of Paul's voters in VT likely came from Democratic leaning individuals. I agree that there are a lot of anti-war type people in VT. A couple of us at my polling place would sometimes mention that to people as they entered the polls.
    That strategy works in any open primary state. Most of Paul's votes did not come from Democrats. Paul's votes came from Republicans, independents and some Democrats. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO WIN THE GENERAL!



    I don't know anything about that but it may be a different NH person you are talking about. The guy that the campaign (the NH campaign staff organized in ME and VT for Ron Paul, though on a much, much smaller scale than in NH) had do southern VT that I'm talking about only did the 2 southern counties in VT. He didn't seem like the type of person to start a meetup group. I learned about him from the campaign chair in my county. Regardless, it makes sense the that campaign people and the grassroots people organize some things separately.
    Then we are talking about a different guy. You mean Mike F? He didn't go out of his way to work with anyone as far as I can see. And Marion in Chittenden county was absolutely useless. Norman worked overtime to help in what capacity he could. If anyone from the campaign deserves any kind of kudos it's Norman. We didn't coordinate-- we complemented.

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    Its actually not sad. It is however irrelevant.

    Just take ND for example. The state population is around 680,000 and only about 10,000 total votes were cast in the primary.

    So?

    Let me save the OP some time. Its ALWAYS going to be a tiny %.
    The point is not that the percentages are small. The percentages are small for every candidate, because only a small percentage of the population votes in the primary.

    The point of these statistics are to compare the percentage of people in each state who understand liberty, and are willing to make the effort to do something about it, by voting for RP.

    It's a comparison between states, not between candidates.

    In NH, nearly one in 20 people you see on the street, including children, democrats, nonvoters, etc, voted for Ron Paul in the republican primary. No other state can come close to saying that.
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    I added the 2008 percentages according to this source, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post4165019

    The percentages are up for almost every state this time around! In 2008, MT has the highest at 2%. MT hasn't voted yet. ID was 2nd highest at 1.9%. There was an ID (open) primary last time. This time ID held caucuses. Less people vote in caucuses so it makes sense that the ID percentage went down.

    NH was 3rd in 2008 at 1.4%. NH jumped by the largest amount, all the way up to 4.3%. VT jumped the next highest amount, from 0.4% to 2.4%. SC had the 3rd largest increase.
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    Cool thread.

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