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    % of total population voting for RP, by state (hint: NH blows away the competition)

    IA: 0.9%
    NH: 4.3%
    SC: 1.7%
    FL: 0.6%
    NV: 0.2%
    CO: 0.2%
    MO: 0.5%
    MN: 0.3%
    ME: 0.2%
    AR: 0.6%
    MI: 1.2%
    WY: 0.1%
    WA: 0.2%
    AK: 0.4%
    GA: 0.6%
    ID: 0.5%
    MA: 0.5%
    ND: 0.5%
    OH: 1.0%
    OK: 0.7%
    TN: 0.8%
    VT: 2.3%
    VA: 1.3%

    That's right. More than one in 25 people, in the entire state of NH (including kids, democrats, etc), voted for RP in the republican primary. That blows away the competition.

    If you want to live in a state with a very large population of people who "get it", you know where to go =)

    FSP FTW!
    Last edited by tremendoustie; 03-08-2012 at 08:53 AM.
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.



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  3. #2
    I am seriously considering becoming a Free Stater some day.

  4. #3
    if all the free staters in NH moved down to SC, I would definitely get on board

    I don't like snow, SC is so much nicer

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    if all the free staters in NH moved down to SC, I would definitely get on board

    I don't like snow, SC is so much nicer
    No way would I give up downhill and x-c skiing, autumn foliage, lakes, mountains, etc. Take away all factors but the weather and environment, and I'd still overwhelmingly prefer NH -- but to each their own. =)
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.

  6. #5
    Bump!
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.

  7. #6
    two words...

    Open Primary

    The caucuses will always have a lower percentage of the total population.
    Closed primaries will be lower than open ones.
    FL was pretty much uncontested, and while SC was open, the media did not report that fact.

    This isn't to suggest that NH is not friendly ground, but that there are other reasons for these percentages.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  8. #7
    Very intrigued by the FSP, but not sure I can commit to moving to a particular state at this time.

    NH is my first choice state to live in though, that I can say for sure!

  9. #8
    Holla.

    We have our issues here, but I'd have to be pulled kicking and screaming (and paid handily) to live in some of the other states in this country.



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    just for comparison sake, here is 2008 sorted by the same stat.

    State or territory Census
    population
    4/1/2010
    Turnout Ron
    Paul
    Votes
    Ron
    Paul
    %
    % pop
    turn
    out
    % pop
    Ron
    Paul
    % of Ron Paul
    Vote
    MT 989,415 94,789 20,452 21.58% 9.58% 2.07% 1.69%
    ID 1,567,582 125,570 29,785 23.72% 8.01% 1.90% 2.46%
    NH 1,316,470 234,851 18,308 7.80% 17.84% 1.39% 1.51%
    OR 3,831,074 349,914 51,100 14.60% 9.13% 1.33% 4.22%
    SD 814,180 60,954 10,072 16.52% 7.49% 1.24% 0.83%
    PA 12,702,379 815,364 129,246 15.85% 6.42% 1.02% 10.68%
    NE 1,826,341 135,712 17,647 13.00% 7.43% 0.97% 1.46%
    NM 2,059,179 110,814 15,551 14.03% 5.38% 0.76% 1.29%
    WA 6,724,540 529,932 40,539 7.65% 7.88% 0.60% 3.35%
    MI 9,883,640 869,293 54,475 6.27% 8.80% 0.55% 4.50%
    TN 6,346,105 553,005 31,026 5.61% 8.71% 0.49% 2.56%
    IN 6,483,802 412,745 31,699 7.68% 6.37% 0.49% 2.62%
    OH 11,536,504 1,045,624 55,690 5.33% 9.06% 0.48% 4.60%
    MO 5,988,927 588,720 26,464 4.50% 9.83% 0.44% 2.19%
    VT 625,741 39,843 2,635 6.61% 6.37% 0.42% 0.22%
    NC 9,535,483 517,583 37,260 7.20% 5.43% 0.39% 3.08%
    IA 3,046,355 119,188 11,841 9.93% 3.91% 0.39% 0.98%
    AR 2,915,918 229,153 10,983 4.79% 7.86% 0.38% 0.91%
    AZ 6,392,017 541,035 22,692 4.19% 8.46% 0.36% 1.88%
    IL 12,830,632 899,422 45,055 5.01% 7.01% 0.35% 3.72%
    SC 4,625,364 445,677 16,155 3.62% 9.64% 0.35% 1.33%
    CA 37,253,956 2,932,811 125,365 4.27% 7.87% 0.34% 10.36%
    WI 5,686,986 402,699 19,090 4.74% 7.08% 0.34% 1.58%
    FL 18,801,310 1,949,498 62,887 3.23% 10.37% 0.33% 5.20%
    AK 710,231 13,703 2,363 17.24% 1.93% 0.33% 0.20%
    MD 5,773,552 320,989 19,196 5.98% 5.56% 0.33% 1.59%
    UT 2,763,885 296,061 8,846 2.99% 10.71% 0.32% 0.73%
    WV 1,852,994 117,945 5,914 5.01% 6.37% 0.32% 0.49%
    AL 4,779,736 552,155 14,810 2.68% 11.55% 0.31% 1.22%
    ND 672,591 9,743 2,082 21.37% 1.45% 0.31% 0.17%
    KY 4,339,367 197,793 13,427 6.79% 4.56% 0.31% 1.11%
    NJ 8,791,894 566,201 27,184 4.80% 6.44% 0.31% 2.25%
    OK 3,751,351 335,054 11,183 3.34% 8.93% 0.30% 0.92%
    GA 9,687,653 963,541 28,096 2.92% 9.95% 0.29% 2.32%
    VA 8,001,024 489,252 21,999 4.50% 6.11% 0.27% 1.82%
    TX 25,145,561 1,362,322 66,360 4.87% 5.42% 0.26% 5.48%
    DE 897,934 50,237 2,131 4.24% 5.59% 0.24% 0.18%
    NV 2,700,551 44,324 6,087 13.73% 1.64% 0.23% 0.50%
    NY 19,378,102 670,078 40,113 5.99% 3.46% 0.21% 3.31%
    MA 6,547,629 500,550 13,251 2.65% 7.64% 0.20% 1.09%
    LA 4,533,372 156,101 8,590 5.50% 3.44% 0.19% 0.71%
    MN 5,303,925 62,828 9,852 15.68% 1.18% 0.19% 0.81%
    MS 2,967,297 143,286 5,510 3.85% 4.83% 0.19% 0.46%
    CT 3,574,097 151,604 6,287 4.15% 4.24% 0.18% 0.52%
    RI 1,052,567 26,996 1,777 6.58% 2.56% 0.17% 0.15%
    CO 5,029,196 70,229 5,910 8.42% 1.40% 0.12% 0.49%
    KS 2,853,118 19,133 2,182 11.40% 0.67% 0.08% 0.18%
    ME 1,328,361 5,491 1,002 18.25% 0.41% 0.08% 0.08%
    HI 1 0 0 #DIV/0! 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    WY 1 0 0 #DIV/0! 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Total
    (ex D.C. & Terr)
    306,219,890 21,129,812 1,210,169 5.73% 6.90% 0.40% 100.00%
    *No Data
    **Source Wikipedia
    ***Note*** When states with non-binding primaries shown instead of caucus results
    ****This Chart compiled to show POPULAR support****

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    two words...

    Open Primary

    The caucuses will always have a lower percentage of the total population.
    Closed primaries will be lower than open ones.
    FL was pretty much uncontested, and while SC was open, the media did not report that fact.

    This isn't to suggest that NH is not friendly ground, but that there are other reasons for these percentages.
    The NH primary was not open -- Ds were not allowed to vote, only Rs and Is.

    The fact is, if you walk down a random street in NH, more than 1 in 25 people you see voted for RP in the republican primary -- and that's including children, democrats, etc. No other state can come close to saying that.

    The community of people who understand and support liberty is simply far more numerous in NH than in any other state.
    Last edited by tremendoustie; 02-10-2012 at 12:07 PM.
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.

  13. #11
    NH is slowly becoming the most free state in every category, so I'm still feeling good about over 1,000 people having moved! After 2,000 people have moved I expect it to quickly become the most free state in every category.
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    Maine is dead last? That's not good.

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    Somehow, NH is one of the top states by % or registered democrats. Go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    if all the free staters in NH moved down to SC, I would definitely get on board

    I don't like snow, SC is so much nicer
    Who says the Free State Project must be limited to one state? I think South Carolina would be a great second front in the war to preserve our liberty. I agree with you. It's much warmer there but there are other reasons why SC would be a great place to stagea come back for liberty. They have a relatively low population and they too love limited government......for the most part. I think it's a great place for liberty minded Christians to set up a movement because then we can influence Christians who make up a large segment of their population but have been misguided by neocons. Besides. My wife grew up in upstate SC and we can get a piece of land there pretty cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw68 View Post
    Maine is dead last? That's not good.
    They move over from Mass.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    if all the free staters in NH moved down to SC, I would definitely get on board

    I don't like snow, SC is so much nicer
    What do you mean? The reason the percentage was so high in SC is because Ron Paul got a 70% boost in the SC Republican Primary polls because of his great success in the New Hampshire Republican Primary. Without the amazing success in NH, Ron Paul may not have even broken the 1.0% level in SC, just like the other states.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.p...Hampshire-Bump
    In polls by three different polling companies, Ron Paul had a significant bump in South Carolina. According to the South Carolina PPP poll before the New Hampshire Primary, Ron Paul polled at 9%. In the PPP poll right after the New Hampshire Primary, Ron Paul polled at 15%. The pre-New Hampshire Primary Rasmussen Reports poll had Ron Paul at 11%. The post-New Hampshire Primary Rasmussen Reports poll had Ron Paul at 16%. The American Research Group polls before and after the New Hampshire Primary showed a jump from 9% to 20% for Ron Paul in South Carolina.
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    two words...

    Open Primary

    Closed primaries will be lower than open ones.
    FL was pretty much uncontested, and while SC was open, the media did not report that fact.

    This isn't to suggest that NH is not friendly ground, but that there are other reasons for these percentages.
    I agree. NH doesn't have an open primary so it is amazing how well Ron Paul did compared to SC which has an open primary. That's why Ron Paul got 2nd with 4% of the vote in the NH Democratic Primary. And to think, Ron Paul's success in NH gave him a 70% boost in the SC polls.
    Lifetime member of more than 1 national gun organization and the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance. Part of Young Americans for Liberty and Campaign for Liberty. Free State Project participant and multi-year Free Talk Live AMPlifier.

  21. #18
    Imagine if 1,000 constitutionalists moved to a State where only 5,000 people vote.
    Last edited by lucent; 02-10-2012 at 07:45 PM.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Shays View Post
    Who says the Free State Project must be limited to one state?
    The people of the FSP.

    I think South Carolina would be a great second front in the war to preserve our liberty.
    There is already a 2nd front, though completely unrelated to the FSP called Free State Wyoming. A member of it is active on this forum and he said that he may be the only person involved with it that is a political activists. There is another group that was also inspired by the FSP. It is called Christian Exodus. The goal is to move hardcore Christians to SC, cut taxes, ban gay freedom, ban abortion and that type of stuff. You know, the stuff your typical hardcore evangelical Republican wants.

    I agree with you. It's much warmer there but there are other reasons why SC would be a great place to stagea come back for liberty. They have a relatively low population and they too love limited government......for the most part.
    Well, the people moving to SC really aren't about increasing freedom or limiting the government. The government is actually worse in SC than most states so going to SC for freedom is kinda of counterproductive, anyway. SC is ranked #26. NH is ranked #1. http://mercatus.org/freedom-in-the-50-states/SC
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  23. #20
    At some point in my life I'll be joining the REAL free state...Montana. The FSP is a great idea though, it gives MT some competition/comradery.

    I'll wager 7% of the MT population votes for Ron Paul this time around.



    Paradise Valley, MT.....Who can beat Montana, seriously? Freedom is beautiful.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by lucent View Post
    Imagine if 1,000 constitutionalists moved to a State where only 5,000 people vote.
    Except there is nit a state where even only 250,000 people vote.
    731,163 people voted in the Maine 2008 Presidential election
    1,920,969 people voted in the SC 2008 Presidential election
    even 327,341 people voted in the AK 2008 Presidential election
    Last edited by Keith and stuff; 02-10-2012 at 08:24 PM.
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  25. #22
    Alright Lake, you want a photo war, you've got it




    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.

  26. #23
    Oh its ON tremendoustie....












  27. #24
    That's it. I moving to Montana AND New Hampshire!!

    GO GO QUANTUM SUPERPOSITION OF LIBERTEEEEHHH!!!!



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  29. #25
    I have always liked Montana or North Dakota. Me is thinking Montana.
    "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

  30. #26
    My top four states (in no particular order) would be Montana, Wyoming, Idaho and New Hampshire. All vastly superior to Pennsylvania and Tennessee.
    Last edited by Shane Harris; 02-10-2012 at 09:32 PM.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by tremendoustie View Post
    If you want to live in a state with a very large population of people who "get it", you know where to go =)

    FSP FTW!
    Come on...the state of NH chose Obama in 2008.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Harris View Post
    My top four states (in no particular order) would be Montana, Wyoming, Idaho and New Hampshire. All vastly superior to Pennsylvania and Tennessee.
    I know TN was a lost cause after years of losing politically there. I was especially sad to be part of the losing side in the Tennessee Tax Revolt in 2000. It was such a sad loss.

    According to Freedom in the 50 States, the top 10 states are:
    1. New Hampshire
    2. South Dakota
    3. Indiana
    4. Idaho
    5. Missouri
    6. Nevada
    7. Colorado
    8. Oregon
    9. Virginia
    10. North Dakota
    21. Wyoming
    29. Montana

    IMO, the report unfairly punished WY because of the massive corporate taxes on oil/gas/mineral companies and outrageously high government spending that of that money. However, I feel the people of WY could adjust to a much lower standard of living if taxes were greatly reduced on corporations. I don't blame the people of WY for the large government. I understand where the report is coming from, I just disagree with it on that issue. Perhaps WY shouldn't be in the top 10 but pretty close. Likewise, MT should be in the top 25, IMO.

    As for the prettiest state, I've been to all of them. I've been to most states more than once, including MT. Heck, I live in NH. Still, AK is the prettiest state as far as I'm concerned.
    Lifetime member of more than 1 national gun organization and the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance. Part of Young Americans for Liberty and Campaign for Liberty. Free State Project participant and multi-year Free Talk Live AMPlifier.

  33. #29
    This may be true but WV was the only state that had real delegates at the national convention in 08 that voted for Paul

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by rich34 View Post
    This may be true but WV was the only state that had real delegates at the national convention in 08 that voted for Paul
    It is 36th in freedom.

    http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011/WV
    Freedom Rankings
    #36 Overall
    #40 Economic
    #26 Personal

    http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R.phtml#note10
    We get a total of 2,343 for McCain, 15 for Paul, and 2 for Romney as announced from the floor. If the 30 votes from West Virginia and the 74 votes from Pennsylvania are all counted for McCain: the total is 2,346 for McCain, 13 for Paul, and 2 for Romney.

    The 5 Paul votes from Alaska, 4 from Oregon, 4 from Washington, and 2 from West Virginia were not at all announced aloud by the Chair, but the 2 for Romney from Utah were. Indeed, none of the votes for Paul were announced from the Chair and Paul lost 2 votes between the floor and the Chair (re: West Virginia).

    The 6 Paul votes from Minnesota were neither heard from the floor nor announced from the chair.

    The final tally as announced from the Chair was: McCain 2,372, Romney 2, and Paul 5. This totals to 2,379.
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